A7N8X -DLX- v1.04 vs v2.0 ????????

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Hi there,

I bought this mobo couple of months ago. The version is 1.04.
I didn't know much at the time for this mobo so I wasn't aware of the
versions.
What am I missing from v2.0 that 1.04 cannot do?
I use an AthlonXP 2000+ Model 6 but I will be upgrading some time soon.
Should I get rid of the old version now before the price goes further down?

Many thanks and sorry if this is covered before. I don't see anything
relevant since I just subscribed to this news-group.

C
 
Advance said:
Hi there,

I bought this mobo couple of months ago. The version is 1.04.
I didn't know much at the time for this mobo so I wasn't aware of the
versions.
What am I missing from v2.0 that 1.04 cannot do?
I use an AthlonXP 2000+ Model 6 but I will be upgrading some time soon.
Should I get rid of the old version now before the price goes further
down?

Many thanks and sorry if this is covered before. I don't see anything
relevant since I just subscribed to this news-group.
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It has been covered before, lots of times.

groups.google.com will help you.

Since BIOS 1004 there is little to choose in terms of official CPU support,
but the overclockers will want a Rev 2.0

Ben
 
Advance said:
Ben thanks for the prompt reply.

Well this is kinda weird....:
According to the official CPU support list (
http://www.asus.com.tw/support/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx )
I can have all the CPUs including the 400Mhz FSB....
...BUT according to the official manual of the mobo: (
http://www.asus.com.tw/support/download/item.aspx?ModelName=A7N8X Deluxe&Type=Manual
) 400 Mhz is only supported from PCB 2.0 and later...

Confusing.. isn't it? .... :(
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No... look again at the cpusupport page... support of 200MHz FSB comes as of
BIOS 1004 (which was released after the manual). They should update the
manual to be fair.

Ben
 
I come to this group because I also am not as savvy as you are. Trying to
find the information that you deem so unworthy to give up a precious five
minutes of your time is the reason I am reluctant to ever post a question. I
am still having my own confusion on the differences and upgrade options with
my A7N8X DLX PCB 1.04 BIOS 1006. There IS conflicting web page info.

Just wanted to let you know your great inteligence is still safe and
protected.

Nick
 
Nick said:
I come to this group because I also am not as savvy as you are. Trying to
find the information that you deem so unworthy to give up a precious five
minutes of your time
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Don't even start... take a look at the number of posts I have made, the
number of answers I have given... don't give me that attitude, you have no
idea - you've clearly spent little time reading posts in here if you think I
am unwilling to give up my time.

How about you give up a little of your precious time and do search first.
Or at least ask questions specific enough to appear to have done some
research.

I gave the simple answer, and pointed out how to find the answer in the
archives, what more do you want?
is the reason I am reluctant to ever post a
question. I am still having my own confusion on the differences and
upgrade options with my A7N8X DLX PCB 1.04 BIOS 1006. There IS
conflicting web page info.
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If you need an answer I suggest you ask a question and don't give the people
who are going to give you the answer a load of unnecessary attitude first.
Just wanted to let you know your great inteligence is still safe and
protected.
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Eh?

Ben
 
=|[ Nick Zvaleko's ]|= wrote:
There IS conflicting web page info.
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<snip>........

lol, you have discovered a great truth ;D

these days, I bubble sort potential infos according to
my own whims and hunches..

what a crazy pot~
 
Nick Zvaleko said:
I come to this group because I also am not as savvy as you are. Trying to
find the information that you deem so unworthy to give up a precious five
minutes of your time is the reason I am reluctant to ever post a question. I
am still having my own confusion on the differences and upgrade options with
my A7N8X DLX PCB 1.04 BIOS 1006. There IS conflicting web page info.

Just wanted to let you know your great inteligence is still safe and
protected.

Nick

Ben Pope said:
It has been covered before, lots of times.

groups.google.com will help you.

Since BIOS 1004 there is little to choose in terms of official CPU support,
but the overclockers will want a Rev 2.0

Ben
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Hey, Nick. I just learned a quite helpful bit of info that looks
promising for future searches and which should help us avoid having to
inquire on here about previously-asked questions. I just now learned about
Google's site, the "groups.google.com". Didn't even know it existed, but I
tried it briefly on this orig. posted ques. and looks like a lot of "hits".
Maybe one of them will explain this particularly perplexing
misunderstanding.
Thanks for the info. on that site, whomever!
Regards, sdlomi
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I come to this group because I also am not as savvy as you are. Trying to
find the information that you deem so unworthy to give up a precious five
minutes of your time is the reason I am reluctant to ever post a question.
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Good, if that is your attitude to people that try to help you, talk
about ungrateful. We don't all have 5 mins to spare for every newbie
who turns up who can't be bothered to do the basics of finding the
answer for themselves and expect to be spoon fed through the course of
their lives.
 
Advance said:
Hi there,

I bought this mobo couple of months ago. The version is 1.04.
I didn't know much at the time for this mobo so I wasn't aware of the
versions.
What am I missing from v2.0 that 1.04 cannot do?
I use an AthlonXP 2000+ Model 6 but I will be upgrading some time soon.
Should I get rid of the old version now before the price goes further down?

Many thanks and sorry if this is covered before. I don't see anything
relevant since I just subscribed to this news-group.

C
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Basically, rev 1.X boards can't stabily do 200FSB.
A fix was released in BIOS release 1003 and it identifys
200FSB CPU's, BUT it retards the FSB performance so it is stable at
200FSB. The retardness sets in at apx 198FSB, so you should be fine
if your's is lower. For no retardness, get a rev 2.X board...

Above reason, why I have a rev2 board now and sold my rev1.04 one.
Now my Barton is FREE! *8) 225FSB X10

Cheers

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Advance said:
Correct

I think I'll stick with the 1.04 PCB and the 1007 Bios for now :)

Cheers

C


http://www.asus.com.tw/support/download/item.aspx?ModelName=A7N8X Deluxe&Type=Manual


No... look again at the cpusupport page... support of 200MHz FSB comes as
of

BIOS 1004 (which was released after the manual). They should update the
manual to be fair.

Ben
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Want 600-800+MB/s more Memory Bandwidth? with 198FSB+ get a rev2 board.
All BIOS releases from 1002-1006 where tested here and the result was
conclusive. They deliberately retarded the BIOS from release 1003
onwards, for 200FSB compatibility for newer CPU's.

They promised 200FSB/400DDR on the box and delivered, but didn't deliver
the performance till revision 2 boards where released. I guess there
lawyers where happy, some nerd saved there ass in the Programming dept.

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______________________________________________________________________________________

There is no such thing, at this date of the world’s history, in America,
as an independent press. You know it and I know it… The business of the
Journalist is to destroy truth; To lie outright; To pervert; To vilify;
To fawn at the feet of mammon, and to sell his country and his race for
his daily bread. You know it and I know it and what folly is this
toasting an independent press? We are the tools and vassals for rich men
behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and
we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and or lives are all the
property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes.
– John Swinton, former Chief of Staff, The New York Times, circa 1880
______________________________________________________________________________________
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You've made my point. The newbie label is insulting. I have tried to find an
answer for 2 weeks now and I get conflicting info. Is 2 weeks enough of an
effort or should I go to 3.

I've been doing computers since the 80's but technology is too fast for me
to always keep up with as I have a family, mortgage, etc.

Newbies come here to learn things that you take for granted. Directing them
to where they should look can be done nicely and gently. Your way is to act
like you ran out of pocket protectors.

That phrase "This has been answered many times" seems to be used to
intimidate.

Nick
 
You've made my point. The newbie label is insulting. I have tried to find an
answer for 2 weeks now and I get conflicting info. Is 2 weeks enough of an
effort or should I go to 3.
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And my point is that if you ask a question on Usenet, it is up to
others to answer it if they want to, you have not paid them any money
and you do not have any right to expect an answer. Someone took the
trouble to explain to you how to find the answer for yourself, and you
throw it back in their face. Learn some manners.
 
Many thanks to everyone who spent time to answer my deluxe question :)
Let's don't start now a deluxe war about the deluxe motherboard and the
deluxe versions!

I didn't find Ben's statement as insulting or anything else when he said
that "It has been covered before, lots of times".
On the contrary I thank him for spenting time to even answer my posting.
On the other hand I totaly disagree that the groups SHOULD NOT be used for
old issues. Whoever thinks of this is a complete moron (full stop).
Most of the people here come for guidance. Guidance can vary from one
sentence such as "Use Google" to completely justified answers like
Minotaur's one.
Everyone is doing his best to help.
Others have time to spent..and others do NOT. The later of course applies
BOTH to people who enqire AND to people who asnwer!
If I wanted to spend hours hunting for hardware information.. I would be a
Tech Support person and not a Security Specialist!
At the end of the day...long answers are given only from specialists that
HAVE time or from people who've been there..done that and they are willing
to help someone avoid the hassle!

Thanks again to everyone.

C
 
Advance said:
Many thanks to everyone who spent time to answer my deluxe question :)
Let's don't start now a deluxe war about the deluxe motherboard and the
deluxe versions!

I didn't find Ben's statement as insulting or anything else when he said
that "It has been covered before, lots of times".
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Good, 'cos no offence was intended. People are easily offended on usenet.
On the contrary I thank him for spenting time to even answer my posting.
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No problems.
On the other hand I totaly disagree that the groups SHOULD NOT be used for
old issues. Whoever thinks of this is a complete moron (full stop).
Most of the people here come for guidance. Guidance can vary from one
sentence such as "Use Google" to completely justified answers like
Minotaur's one.
Everyone is doing his best to help.
Others have time to spent..and others do NOT. The later of course applies
BOTH to people who enqire AND to people who asnwer!
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Indeed. I would consider it impolite for somebody to expect me to spend
more time on their problem than they do. (not that you did)
If I wanted to spend hours hunting for hardware information.. I would be a
Tech Support person and not a Security Specialist!
At the end of the day...long answers are given only from specialists that
HAVE time or from people who've been there..done that and they are willing
to help someone avoid the hassle!
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I'm happy to engage in long answers if I feel the question justifies it.
When a question has no specifics I'm not going to go into all the details I
know as my time is likely to be wasted. In your case I gave the bare
minimum, as I was in a rush, and you'd mentioned no specifics. If you'd
have asked about likely maximum FSBs I would probably have given more
details.

At the end of the day, the level of detail in my response is ultimately
reliant on the level of detail on the question.

Ben
 
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