A7N8X DL backwards compatibility with 2X graphics card

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They dont show the slot that these boards (should) have, i havent open'd
mine
it's a AGP3.0 spec, so agp3.0 and agp2.0 are both fine, this card has one
long slot in the middle (with no ribs) and then 2 ribs to each end for the
pro cards.... it looks like an agp pro UNIVERSAL slot by the pic's but it
sounds like it's only going to support a 1.5 AGP Pro card (little shakey on
this)
all said and done, if his card isnt an AGP Pro then it should work


page 12 has a better view of he sockets
http://www.motherboards.org/files/techspecs/apro_r11a.pdf


 
"rstlne" said:
They dont show the slot that these boards (should) have, i havent open'd
mine
it's a AGP3.0 spec, so agp3.0 and agp2.0 are both fine, this card has one
long slot in the middle (with no ribs) and then 2 ribs to each end for the
pro cards.... it looks like an agp pro UNIVERSAL slot by the pic's but it
sounds like it's only going to support a 1.5 AGP Pro card (little shakey on
this)
all said and done, if his card isnt an AGP Pro then it should work


page 12 has a better view of he sockets
http://www.motherboards.org/files/techspecs/apro_r11a.pdf

When I look in the A7N8X Deluxe manual (e1170) page 17, I see the two
end sections (which I generally ignore), leaving one key showing in the
1.5V only position. When he attempts to fit the G200, the card won't hit
the end sections, but because it won't have a slot in the 1.5V
key position, it will not fit in the slot.

There is a picture of a Mill G200 here, and it has a 3.3V only slot -
it isn't going to fit:
http://www.tennmax.com/matrox_g200.htm

From the AGP spec 3.0:
http://developer.intel.com/technology/agp/downloads/agp30_final_10.pdf

On page 39, the A7N8X corresponds to the fifth entry-
"Universal 1.5V AGP3.0 Motherboard"

On page 73, the fourth row of the table corresponds to the A7N8X.
The first column shows that a 3.3V only card cannot be used.
Note that compatibility is now a 6x6 matrix, which is quite messy
for consumers to have to deal with. Thank God that AGP is going
away soon.

BTW: Thanks for the pointer to that file - I have a small collection of
AGP docs (mostly from Intel sites), but that one is a new one for me.

Paul
 
My manual is e1293, so I am guessing that the difference is between the
revision 1 and revision 2 boards..

Paul said:
"rstlne" said:
They dont show the slot that these boards (should) have, i havent open'd
mine
it's a AGP3.0 spec, so agp3.0 and agp2.0 are both fine, this card has one
long slot in the middle (with no ribs) and then 2 ribs to each end for the
pro cards.... it looks like an agp pro UNIVERSAL slot by the pic's but it
sounds like it's only going to support a 1.5 AGP Pro card (little shakey on
this)
all said and done, if his card isnt an AGP Pro then it should work


page 12 has a better view of he sockets
http://www.motherboards.org/files/techspecs/apro_r11a.pdf

When I look in the A7N8X Deluxe manual (e1170) page 17, I see the two
end sections (which I generally ignore), leaving one key showing in the
1.5V only position. When he attempts to fit the G200, the card won't hit
the end sections, but because it won't have a slot in the 1.5V
key position, it will not fit in the slot.

There is a picture of a Mill G200 here, and it has a 3.3V only slot -
it isn't going to fit:
http://www.tennmax.com/matrox_g200.htm

From the AGP spec 3.0:
http://developer.intel.com/technology/agp/downloads/agp30_final_10.pdf

On page 39, the A7N8X corresponds to the fifth entry-
"Universal 1.5V AGP3.0 Motherboard"

On page 73, the fourth row of the table corresponds to the A7N8X.
The first column shows that a 3.3V only card cannot be used.
Note that compatibility is now a 6x6 matrix, which is quite messy
for consumers to have to deal with. Thank God that AGP is going
away soon.

BTW: Thanks for the pointer to that file - I have a small collection of
AGP docs (mostly from Intel sites), but that one is a new one for me.

Paul
 
Read in another post that the BIOS has an option for "Auto, AGP1x, 2x,
4x or 8x". Does this mean that on Auto or 2x I can run such a card?
Would like to continue using a Matrox Millennium G200 until next round
of upgrading.
 
When I wanted to get a A7N8X, I researched and found (don't know where) the
old 3.? volt cards were not supported, no matter what agp X X rating they
had. You need a 1.5 volt card. I also found that, in my case at least, that
a cheap (under $50) new card works almost as well as the 128 meg super duper
cards ($100 up)for what I do. I have one of the cheaper ones and a better
one and cannot tell a whole lot of difference in them. My use only includes
MS Combat Sim as the heaviest user game.

rstlne said:
My manual is e1293, so I am guessing that the difference is between the
revision 1 and revision 2 boards..

shakey
on
this)
all said and done, if his card isnt an AGP Pro then it should work


page 12 has a better view of he sockets
http://www.motherboards.org/files/techspecs/apro_r11a.pdf

When I look in the A7N8X Deluxe manual (e1170) page 17, I see the two
end sections (which I generally ignore), leaving one key showing in the
1.5V only position. When he attempts to fit the G200, the card won't hit
the end sections, but because it won't have a slot in the 1.5V
key position, it will not fit in the slot.

There is a picture of a Mill G200 here, and it has a 3.3V only slot -
it isn't going to fit:
http://www.tennmax.com/matrox_g200.htm

From the AGP spec 3.0:
http://developer.intel.com/technology/agp/downloads/agp30_final_10.pdf

On page 39, the A7N8X corresponds to the fifth entry-
"Universal 1.5V AGP3.0 Motherboard"

On page 73, the fourth row of the table corresponds to the A7N8X.
The first column shows that a 3.3V only card cannot be used.
Note that compatibility is now a 6x6 matrix, which is quite messy
for consumers to have to deal with. Thank God that AGP is going
away soon.

BTW: Thanks for the pointer to that file - I have a small collection of
AGP docs (mostly from Intel sites), but that one is a new one for me.

Paul
 
My card is a 3.3v card

ct said:
When I wanted to get a A7N8X, I researched and found (don't know where) the
old 3.? volt cards were not supported, no matter what agp X X rating they
had. You need a 1.5 volt card. I also found that, in my case at least, that
a cheap (under $50) new card works almost as well as the 128 meg super duper
cards ($100 up)for what I do. I have one of the cheaper ones and a better
one and cannot tell a whole lot of difference in them. My use only includes
MS Combat Sim as the heaviest user game.

rstlne said:
My manual is e1293, so I am guessing that the difference is between the
revision 1 and revision 2 boards..

 
If you read the manual you see that there is a red light by the AGP slot if
that light is on then your well not work on that board. Hope this helps...

Steve
 
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