A7N8X Deluxe Ready for Next round of SATA Drives?

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I understand about the chipsets on the current SATA drives, but when the
real deal comes out, is the motherboard going to be compatible with it for
the full use of the bandwidth?

Thanks in advance!
 
I understand about the chipsets on the current SATA drives, but when the
real deal comes out, is the motherboard going to be compatible with it for
the full use of the bandwidth?
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Not sure what you mean, the full bandwidth is being used now. The
Raptor does about 63MB/s, which any controller can handle.
 
i'm_tired said:
Nope. The SATA controllers onboard are on the PCI BUS. The PCI BUS is
133mb max not even discounting overhead and other devices hogging the BUS
occasionally etc. As the other responder mentioned, the current SATA drives
can only make use of about half the existing 133mb. It may be a very long
time before HDDs actually can acheive thru-put over 100mb let alone 150 to
300.

Some day, we will see a 150 Gb drive with 151 Gb of RAM strapped right to
it. When you boot up, it will dump its entire contents into memory and
you'll have PCI-X speed access directly to any bit of data you have. Until
then, the HDD and other I/O will continue to be the real bottleneck in
personal computing.
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Why not do away with rotating magnetic storage, and go for a standard 1
Petabyte of quantum storage, access times aren't a problem with quantum
devices, you get the data before realise you asked for it ;o)

On a serious note though I too am dissapointed by the current transfer rates
of SATA, all hype!

Ian
 
i'm_tired said:
Some day, we will see a 150 Gb drive with 151 Gb of RAM strapped
right to it. When you boot up, it will dump its entire contents into
memory and you'll have PCI-X speed access directly to any bit of data
you have. Until then, the HDD and other I/O will continue to be the
real bottleneck in personal computing.
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Nope.

Some day we'll get rid of magnetic storage in favour of non-volatile RAM.

Do a search for NRAM by Nantero - I hope it comes to fruition.

This stuff is based on Van Der Waals (spelling probably wrong!) forces at
atomic scales using nanotubes. It's considerably more dense and faster then
DRAM, but the good thing is that it can be manufactured using existing
technology. There will be no RAM and hard drive any more. Only "Memory".
No transferring from Hard drive to RAM or vice-versa. No booting -
Instant-on.

Ben
 
I think we will probably see holographic storage develop fairly fast too..
http://www.almaden.ibm.com/sst/storage/alternative_storage/holograhic.shtml
but you can see that hard drives are still going to develop past what they
are now..
http://www.almaden.ibm.com/sst/storage/alternative_storage/pm.shtml

the "Scanning Probe" section also shows that they get 64Gig/Sq.In. and
that's all they have been able to "Make" .. that will replace CD's and DVD's
if they can develop it to something nice.. anyhow.. I would love to see
"Solid State" drives come out, but I dont think we ever will.. The problem
is that companys selling one variant of ram will need to keep the other
variants priced in verry similar ways or everyone will say "What's up with
that" .. so from a marketing point of view.. I think they'll keep solid
state drives from taking over.. Remember that right now you can buy a 3 gig
half bay solid state drive that connects straight to your ide cable, in fact
the pc thinks it's a hard drive.. But it still cost so much that 99% of us
wouldnt buy it..
 
rstlne said:
I think we will probably see holographic storage develop fairly fast
too..
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http://www.almaden.ibm.com/sst/storage/alternative_storage/holograhic.shtml

It looks promising but so far has limited usefulness as it's more geared
towards shfting lots of data at a time.
but you can see that hard drives are still going to develop past what
they are now..
http://www.almaden.ibm.com/sst/storage/alternative_storage/pm.shtml

the "Scanning Probe" section also shows that they get 64Gig/Sq.In. and
that's all they have been able to "Make" .. that will replace CD's
and DVD's if they can develop it to something nice.. anyhow..
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Indeed, looks a good few years off yet though.
I would
love to see "Solid State" drives come out, but I dont think we ever
will.. The problem is that companys selling one variant of ram will
need to keep the other variants priced in verry similar ways or
everyone will say "What's up with that" .. so from a marketing point
of view.. I think they'll keep solid state drives from taking over..
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I'm not sure what you mean. NRAM looks to be able to run rings around
current ram in terms of access time and density. We're talking 100s of Gb
per chip, with access times a good order of magnitude faster, from what I
understand. This means we're talking capacities as great as magnetic
storage, with access times as fast as the cache on your processor. With
lithographic processes the cost is basically proportional to the area of
silicon you use, so it should be cheap (to make, anyway!). We'll have to
wait and see what sort of prices it will end up at.
Remember that right now you can buy a 3 gig half bay solid state
drive that connects straight to your ide cable, in fact the pc thinks
it's a hard drive.. But it still cost so much that 99% of us wouldnt
buy it..
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Indeed, but thats current technology. NRAM looks to be able to be produced
using current lithographic and deposition techniques, but much denser. The
price should be on a par with existing RAM - they're pitching it as a
replacement to pretty much all other RAMs, volatile or otherwise.

Time will tell, but I'm sure that the end result will be bigger and faster.
We NEED more! We always do.

:-P

Ben
 
Cool...

faster blue screens :)


Ben Pope said:
Nope.

Some day we'll get rid of magnetic storage in favour of non-volatile RAM.

Do a search for NRAM by Nantero - I hope it comes to fruition.

This stuff is based on Van Der Waals (spelling probably wrong!) forces at
atomic scales using nanotubes. It's considerably more dense and faster then
DRAM, but the good thing is that it can be manufactured using existing
technology. There will be no RAM and hard drive any more. Only "Memory".
No transferring from Hard drive to RAM or vice-versa. No booting -
Instant-on.

Ben
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