A year gone bye

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Ira

A year has gone bye and still no sign of Beta 2. I wonder if it really
exists. Spent almost an entire year hearing that this and that will be
fixed in Beta 2 but there haS BEEN NO OFFICIAL NOTIFICATION FROM MS and I
wonder what is going on.Supposing that the product that MS bought was a
working product, where is that product. I also think it is wrong to keep
telling people to run in safe mode. These are then not being reported as
bugs and are not putting any pressure on MS to fix things. NEED SOME
OFFICIAL WORD FROM MS.
Ira
 
When you have a bad spyware/virus infection, it is just common sense to boot
into safe mode - no matter which removal program you are using.

Get use to the fact that in safe mode only the bare minimum of programs and
services are running. You can't clean an active file (running). Therefore
you stand a better chance in safe mode.

It has "nothing" at all to do with Microsoft being in beta - or whatever.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
We've seen posts from folks looking at Vista builds who are seeing a newer
version of Windows Defender.

I agree with Richard Urban. Safe mode will continue to be with us, I'm
afraid.
 
I think that most of the people using MSAS don't know what safe mode really
is. To many of the users who don't even understand what "Beta" is they a
being further confused, I guess this is a fallout of an open beta. There
are many classes of users--beginner, novice, expert and I personally think
almost all the answers to problems are geared to the expert. That is why I
am opposed to the extensive recommendation re Safe Mode. I don't have any
answers except to say that it is impossible to deal with all classes of
users.
Ira
: When you have a bad spyware/virus infection, it is just common sense to
boot
: into safe mode - no matter which removal program you are using.
:
: Get use to the fact that in safe mode only the bare minimum of programs
and
: services are running. You can't clean an active file (running). Therefore
: you stand a better chance in safe mode.
:
: It has "nothing" at all to do with Microsoft being in beta - or whatever.
:
: --
:
:
: Regards,
:
: Richard Urban
: Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
:
: Quote from George Ankner:
: If you knew as much as you think you know,
: You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
:
: : >A year has gone bye and still no sign of Beta 2. I wonder if it really
: > exists. Spent almost an entire year hearing that this and that will be
: > fixed in Beta 2 but there haS BEEN NO OFFICIAL NOTIFICATION FROM MS and
I
: > wonder what is going on.Supposing that the product that MS bought was a
: > working product, where is that product. I also think it is wrong to
keep
: > telling people to run in safe mode. These are then not being reported
as
: > bugs and are not putting any pressure on MS to fix things. NEED SOME
: > OFFICIAL WORD FROM MS.
: > Ira
: >
: > --
: > Ira
: >
: >
:
:
 
Well, FWIW, Ira, here's a (possibly better) alternative which you may find
of use. From my Blog, Defending Your Machine, addy below in my Signature:


#########IMPORTANT#########

Show hidden files and run all of the following removal tools from Safe mode
or a "Clean Boot" when possible, logged on as an Administrator. BEFORE
running these tools, be sure to clear all Temp files and your Temporary
Internet Files (TIF) (including offline content.) Reboot and test if the
malware is fixed after using each tool.

HOW TO Enable Hidden Files
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2002092715262339

Clean Boot - General Win2k/XP procedure, but see below for links for other
OS's (This for Win2k w/msconfig - you can obtain msconfig for Win2k here:
http://www.3feetunder.com/files/win2K_msconfig_setup.exe ):

1. StartRun enter msconfig.

2. On the General tab, click Selective Startup, and then clear the 'Process
System.ini File', 'Process Win.ini File', and 'Load Startup Items' check
boxes. Leave the 'boot.ini' boxes however they are currently set.

3. In the Services tab, check the "Hide All Microsoft Services" checkbox,
and then click the "Disable All" button. If you use a third party firewall
then re-check (enable) it. For example, if you use Zone Alarm, re-check the
True Vector Internet Monitor service (and you may also want to re-check
(enable) the zlclient on the Startup tab.) Equivalent services exist for
other third party firewalls. An alternative to this for XP users is to
enable at this time the XP native firewall (Internet Connection Firewall -
ICF). Be sure to turn it back off when you re-enable your non-MS services
and Startup tab programs and restore your normal msconfig configuration
after cleaning your machine.

4. Click OK and then reboot.

For additional information about how to clean boot your operating system,
click the following article links to view the articles in the Microsoft
Knowledge Base:

310353 How to Perform a Clean Boot in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353
281770 How to Perform Clean-Boot Troubleshooting for Windows 2000
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/281770/EN-US/
267288 How to Perform a Clean Boot in Windows Millennium Edition
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/267288/EN-US/
192926 How to Perform Clean-Boot Troubleshooting for Windows 98
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/192926/EN-US/
243039 How to Perform a Clean Boot in Windows 95
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/243039/EN-US/
#########IMPORTANT#########



(A "Clean Boot" is also very useful to avoid most interference from other
programs such as Norton/Symantec c**p when doing installs, BTW.)
 
Thanks Jim,
There is a lot of usefull imformation in this post. It explains a lot of
things I
didn't know. I only have beginer computer skills. I do, however, know about
safe mode, and know how to get there a, and have performed tasks from safe
mode.
I like reading posts where I can learn new things about my computers.
 
YW, Diana - Glad you found it useful. You might want to take a look at my
Blog for some additional info on protecting your machine. HNY :)
 
Thanks Jim,
I appreciate your willingness to help.I made a shortcut to your blog, on my
desktop
so I can get imformation about secrity, when I need it.
 
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