A toughie request

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Glenn

Long explanation but I believe needed.

On loading IrfanView, click open and the default file it wants to go to is
OBJJMG1X. I can't find it to delete it. Click the window beside it and it
gives the path as........
Documents & Settings
Glenn
Local Settings
Temporary Internet Files
Content IE5
OBJJMG1X
Only problem, in that path, Temporary Internet Files is the last directory
listed. There is no Content IE5 or OBJJMG1X. Content IE5 is under other
paths but not here. And under the other paths, OBJJMG1X isn't there.

I do have explorer set to show hidden files. It just isn't there. But it
is there because IrfanView will show pictures from that file. Pictures that
I have never seen before, (WOW) I might add. Hi light one of the pictures
and try delete and it will say it can't read from that file. Well, of
course not, it ain't there. But it is. NUTS.

A MS forum answer but don't work (didn't show beyond temp).....>
The actual structure of files in Temp Internet Files has a ContentIE5 folder
in it, and then four or more folders in that with cryptic names - and the
actual files in those. Explorer sees this as a uniform one level folder.
It is a deficiency of File Open that it does not recognize this - TIF files
are there really solely for [Internet] Explorer use. The regular file
associations do not work inside TIF either. What you can do is use Internet
Options, click the Settings button, and View Files, then copy it out to a
regular folder. Or open it in Windows Explorer/My Computer and do the same.

Is there a program that can find such hidden directories and God knows how
many other ones that are out there and delete them?

Glenn
 
Glenn said:
Long explanation but I believe needed.

On loading IrfanView, click open and the default file it wants to go to is
OBJJMG1X. I can't find it to delete it. Click the window beside it and it
gives the path as........
Documents & Settings
Glenn
Local Settings
Temporary Internet Files
Content IE5
OBJJMG1X
Only problem, in that path, Temporary Internet Files is the last directory
listed. There is no Content IE5 or OBJJMG1X. Content IE5 is under other
paths but not here. And under the other paths, OBJJMG1X isn't there.
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Glenn, go here:

http://www.****microsoft.com/content/ms-hidden-files.shtml

Sorry, I didn't write the link name.
 
Glenn said:
Long explanation but I believe needed.

On loading IrfanView, click open and the default file it wants to go
to is OBJJMG1X. I can't find it to delete it. Click the window
beside it and it gives the path as........
Documents & Settings
Glenn
Local Settings
Temporary Internet Files
Content IE5
OBJJMG1X
Only problem, in that path, Temporary Internet Files is the last
directory listed. There is no Content IE5 or OBJJMG1X. Content IE5
is under other paths but not here. And under the other paths,
OBJJMG1X isn't there.

I do have explorer set to show hidden files. It just isn't there.
But it is there because IrfanView will show pictures from that file.
Pictures that I have never seen before, (WOW) I might add. Hi light
one of the pictures and try delete and it will say it can't read from
that file. Well, of course not, it ain't there. But it is. NUTS.

A MS forum answer but don't work (didn't show beyond temp).....>
The actual structure of files in Temp Internet Files has a ContentIE5
folder in it, and then four or more folders in that with cryptic
names - and the actual files in those. Explorer sees this as a
uniform one level folder. It is a deficiency of File Open that it
does not recognize this - TIF files are there really solely for
[Internet] Explorer use. The regular file associations do not work
inside TIF either. What you can do is use Internet Options, click the
Settings button, and View Files, then copy it out to a regular
folder. Or open it in Windows Explorer/My Computer and do the same.

Is there a program that can find such hidden directories and God
knows how many other ones that are out there and delete them?

Glenn
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Login under an administrator account or an account other than the one you want to access, and the folders and files will be available to do with as you please. In other words, the account login can not see the TIF files for that account. All others can.
 
That's exactly what you'll be able to do. A logged on user can not access his own TIF files. Any other logged on user can. The "other" logged on user can see, delete, copy, move, etc. another users TIF files.
 
five said:
Glenn wrote:
| Thanks, I'll look. And I'll not even ask you how you found the name.
| [ggg]
|
| Glenn
|

Have a look at delindex too;

http://www.burzurq.com/forum/delindex.html
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Thanks for pointing this out.

However, for me I accomplish this by having a batch file named
"Delind.bat" in my root directory (it can be anywhere):

del C:\WINDOWS\Cookies\index.dat
del C:\WINDOWS\History\History.IE5\index.dat
del C:\WINDOWS\Tempor~1\Content.IE5\index.dat

Then I added the following key to my registry:

HKCU/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/Run/delList

delList has a value of:

"C:\Delind.bat"

The catch is that you have to know where the index.dat files on your
particular computer are located, and that varies between versions of
Windows.

I looked at Delindex batch code and the remarks said something about
website passwords being saved. I use Mozilla, so that wasn't an issue
to me when I set up the batch file (in fact, I wasn't even aware that
it was an issue.)

I also right clicked on the "Delind.bat" batch file in Explorer and
set it up to run minimized.

Now, every single time I reboot, all my index.dat files get deleted
and Windows recreates them when needed. So far, no problems from doing
this.
 
Glenn said:
Long explanation but I believe needed.

On loading IrfanView, click open and the default file it wants to go
to is OBJJMG1X. I can't find it to delete it. Click the window
beside it and it gives the path as........
Documents & Settings
Glenn
Local Settings
Temporary Internet Files
Content IE5
OBJJMG1X
Only problem, in that path, Temporary Internet Files is the last
directory listed. There is no Content IE5 or OBJJMG1X. Content IE5
is under other paths but not here. And under the other paths,
OBJJMG1X isn't there.

I do have explorer set to show hidden files. It just isn't there.
But it is there because IrfanView will show pictures from that file.
Pictures that I have never seen before, (WOW) I might add. Hi light
one of the pictures and try delete and it will say it can't read from
that file. Well, of course not, it ain't there. But it is. NUTS.

A MS forum answer but don't work (didn't show beyond temp).....>
The actual structure of files in Temp Internet Files has a ContentIE5
folder in it, and then four or more folders in that with cryptic
names - and the actual files in those. Explorer sees this as a
uniform one level folder. It is a deficiency of File Open that it
does not recognize this - TIF files are there really solely for
[Internet] Explorer use. The regular file associations do not work
inside TIF either. What you can do is use Internet Options, click the
Settings button, and View Files, then copy it out to a regular
folder. Or open it in Windows Explorer/My Computer and do the same.

Is there a program that can find such hidden directories and God
knows how many other ones that are out there and delete them?
Click to expand...

You might consider clearing your IE cache first. But I have noticed this
operation is often incomplete (on other browsers too).

Also, booting out to DOS (not a DOS box) and deleting files & folders
from there. I also use Spider http://www.fsm.nl/ward/ on 98SE to do all
the dirty work on TIFs. Don't know if it will work on all versions of
IE/ Windows.
 
Ain't that a kick in the head? Logged on as myself and I can't see my
files.

Logged on as a user and I/they can not only see my files and even delete
them???

I wonder who the whiz kid was who thought that one up??

This has to be a xp screwup. In win98, I could see the mentioned files and
delete them.

BTW, having never logged on as other than the default, I have no idea how to
log on as user etc.

Glenn

That's exactly what you'll be able to do. A logged on user can not access
his own TIF files. Any other logged on user can. The "other" logged on user
can see, delete, copy, move, etc. another users TIF files.
 
OK, I logged on as user, found the files I wanted and deleted them.

What a crazy O.S. A user can delete my files but I can't. That feature
must have been written on a Monday morning after a weekend binge.

Glenn Thanks all.
 
Also, booting out to DOS (not a DOS box) and deleting files & folders
from there. I also use Spider http://www.fsm.nl/ward/ on 98SE to do all
the dirty work on TIFs. Don't know if it will work on all versions of
IE/ Windows.
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I use Clean9x.bat from Langa.com. It works from dos and is very powerful -
I use it and defrag weekly.

But I am shiocked about JC's revelations; I doubt it would dig out
something buried that deep

mike r
 
Glenn said:
how

OK, I logged on as user, found the files I wanted and deleted them.

What a crazy O.S. A user can delete my files but I can't. That feature
must have been written on a Monday morning after a weekend binge.

Glenn Thanks all.
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Well, it would seem so, my guess is that they don't want those files played
with while they might be in use. Since the files would not be in use when
logged in as a different user, they would become available. I agree with you
that there must be a better way.
HK
 
mike said:
I use Clean9x.bat from Langa.com. It works from dos and is very
powerful - I use it and defrag weekly.

But I am shiocked about JC's revelations; I doubt it would dig out
something buried that deep
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Which revelation? The location of index.dat? I'm not sure about ME, but
with 98 the Spider program seems to find everything and delete it on
next reboot. I think the Langa solution uses deltree, which obviates the
need to know which sub-folder things are in - it nukes them all.

BTW, the cache cleaner in IE5 does a good job of deleting files BUT it
doesn't kill the index.dat, nor does it remove the sub-folders with the
funny names (nukes the files therein, but leaves the empty folders).
 
Glenn said:
JC Your suggestions are valid for win98 and I used a very similar bat
file for years in win98 but things are screwed up in XP.

I want to use this for a bat file.

Deltree /Y C:\Docume~1\Glenn\Cookies
Deltree /Y C:\Docume~1\Glenn\Local~1\History
Deltree /Y C:\Docume~1\Glenn\Local~1\Temp
Deltree /Y C:\Docume~1\Glenn\Local~1\Tempor~1

Subbing "Documents & Settings" as "Docume~1" and "Local Settings" as
"Local~1" and "Temporary Internet Files" as Tempor~1"??

Win XP no longer really has a DOS mode and will not execute the
autoexec.bat file or config.sys.

This has to be run in the DOS boot (or anyway, in the boot phase) to
work because after I log on it won't delete some portions of it. IE
the sub directories of Temporary Internet Files and there are two of
them.

So far, I haven't found either a freeware or shareware program that
will do this. Suggestions......anyone?
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Deltree is not a valid XP command.
From the Langa Lists CLEANXP.BAT:
http://www.langa.com/newsletters/2002/2002-04-04.htm

Use the Del command with /s parameter.

del /?
Deletes one or more files.

DEL [/P] [/F] [/S] [/Q] [/A[[:]attributes]] names
ERASE [/P] [/F] [/S] [/Q] [/A[[:]attributes]] names

names Specifies a list of one or more files or directories.
Wildcards may be used to delete multiple files. If a
directory is specified, all files within the directory
will be deleted.

/P Prompts for confirmation before deleting each file.
/F Force deleting of read-only files.
/S Delete specified files from all subdirectories.
/Q Quiet mode, do not ask if ok to delete on global wildcard
/A Selects files to delete based on attributes
attributes R Read-only files S System files
H Hidden files A Files ready for archiving
- Prefix meaning not

i.e.
:: next lines switch to C: drive, change to first folder where you want to
delete files
c:
cd "C:\Documents and Settings\User\Local Settings\Temp"
del /q /s /f *.*
:: edit the line above with the correct path and name of the first
directory/folder you want to clean out

Then do as JC says.
[snip]
However, for me I accomplish this by having a batch file named
"Delind.bat" in my root directory (it can be anywhere):

del C:\WINDOWS\Cookies\index.dat
del C:\WINDOWS\History\History.IE5\index.dat
del C:\WINDOWS\Tempor~1\Content.IE5\index.dat

Then I added the following key to my registry:

HKCU/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/Run/delList

delList has a value of:

"C:\Delind.bat"

and Windows recreates them when needed. So far, no problems from
doing this.
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