A Real Remote Desktop Stumper

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Everett H. Leaper

Well I had RD setup correctly. It was working - but reaaaaal slow. Sometimes
even erroring because of the weak connection (to the network). So, I went out
and purchased a WUSB54GSC wireless adapter to use with my WRT54GS router. I
then was only getting 200k of speed. Linksys told me that I needed to upgrade
the firmware on my router, which made sense. So I did.

Now with the router running version 4.71.1 (or something close to that) the
WUSB54GSC is providing 2.4M of speed, but I am unable to get RD to connect at
all. It fails in both directions.

I've set up the firewalls (windows versions only) & TCP/IP settings to allow
RD. File sharing works just fine. and port triggering on 3389 is configured
on the router. I'm dumb founded.

Does anyone know where to go from here?
 
Everett H. Leaper said:
Well I had RD setup correctly. It was working - but reaaaaal slow.
Sometimes
even erroring because of the weak connection (to the network). So, I went
out
and purchased a WUSB54GSC wireless adapter to use with my WRT54GS router.
I
then was only getting 200k of speed. Linksys told me that I needed to
upgrade
the firmware on my router, which made sense. So I did.

Now with the router running version 4.71.1 (or something close to that)
the
WUSB54GSC is providing 2.4M of speed, but I am unable to get RD to connect
at
all. It fails in both directions.

I've set up the firewalls (windows versions only) & TCP/IP settings to
allow
RD. File sharing works just fine. and port triggering on 3389 is
configured
on the router. I'm dumb founded.

Does anyone know where to go from here?
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Is this over your local LAN? If so there is no need to open any ports on the
router. Just call the Remote Desktop (RDP) host from the RDP client using
the hosts local LAN IP address. Of course you need to configure any software
firewall installed on the RDP host to allow incoming RDP requests.

What OS is running on the host and client?

Have you tried reflashing the router firmware?

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"Is this over your local LAN?" - Yes it is. I will close the port however it
wasn't working either way which is why I tried opening 3389. If I recall
correctly it was set up with the port open prior to my firmware upgrade and
was working fine, but I'm not 100% sure on that - it may not have been open.

"Of course you need to configure any software firewall installed on the RDP
host to allow incoming RDP requests." - I've double, triple and quadrouple
checked.

"What OS is running on the host and client?" - Both are on XP Pro

"Have you tried reflashing the router firmware?" - Does that mean holding in
the reset button on the router for 2min after the firmware upgrade? If so,
I've done that. I've also removed power for a minute and then started it up
again.
 
Everett H. Leaper said:
"Is this over your local LAN?" - Yes it is. I will close the port however
it
wasn't working either way which is why I tried opening 3389. If I recall
correctly it was set up with the port open prior to my firmware upgrade
and
was working fine, but I'm not 100% sure on that - it may not have been
open.

"Of course you need to configure any software firewall installed on the
RDP
host to allow incoming RDP requests." - I've double, triple and quadrouple
checked.

"What OS is running on the host and client?" - Both are on XP Pro

"Have you tried reflashing the router firmware?" - Does that mean holding
in
the reset button on the router for 2min after the firmware upgrade? If so,
I've done that. I've also removed power for a minute and then started it
up
again.
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OK....

So your calling the correct IP address for the host?

Is Remote Desktop enabled on the host?

Can you connect to the host from another PC on the same LAN?

Can you connect to a different host from the client?

Is Remote Desktop actually listening on the host on TCP Port 3389?

http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.o...pSetupandTroubleshooting.html#Troubleshooting

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"So your calling the correct IP address for the host?" - Yes

"Is Remote Desktop enabled on the host?"- Yes

"Can you connect to the host from another PC on the same LAN?" - Don't have
one

"Can you connect to a different host from the client?" - Don't have one

"Is Remote Desktop actually listening on the host on TCP Port 3389?

http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.o...pSetupandTroubleshooting.html#Troubleshooting"
" - Yes, I ran the test, it seems to be listening.

However, on that last question I followed another link on the page to a
telnet test microsoft has posted...
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q187628

I think this mayhave told me something, I'm just not sure what to make of it.

All points below pertain:
1) I get no error when I telent to the host and when "tserv" is the host
name. However nothing shows up on the host computer.

2) I do get an error and I guess therefore CANNOT telnet when "tserv" is the
ip address

3) I CAN telnet when "tserv" is both the ip address and the (intended)
client name.

Note: When i try to remote into the intened client from the intended host
(therefore switching them temporarily) it looks like I can log in but I only
get a blank black screen.


I hope I was able to quantify all of that well enough for a response...
 
Sorry... let me add. Point #3 (above) was conducted from the intended Host
(BBOffice) and telneting into the intended Client (LLOffice).

#1 & #2 are done from LLOffice into BBOffice, which is how I ultimately need
the remote desktop to work.
 
Everett H. Leaper said:
Sorry... let me add. Point #3 (above) was conducted from the intended Host
(BBOffice) and telneting into the intended Client (LLOffice).

#1 & #2 are done from LLOffice into BBOffice, which is how I ultimately
need
the remote desktop to work.
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Lets straighten up the names first...

The PC you want to remotely access and control is the "host" and the PC your
connecting from is the "client". So in your example you want to eventually
access and control BBOffice (the RDP "host") from LLOffice (the RDP
"client").

When you run the telnet test from LLOffice to BBOffice you can get using the
BBOffice name but not the IP.

If you telnet into LLOffice from BBOffice you can get in using both the name
and IP address.

In your previous comment you said "Yes, I ran the test, it seems to be
listening". Well, either its listening or not...:-)

Looking at the firewall on each machine make sure the port exception for
Remote Desktop is set for "My network (subnet) only" or "Any computer". If
you have it set for a "Custom address list" then you may be blocking the
wrong address for the client. See the "Adding the port exception" section on
this page...

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;875357

Are you running any type of software on either machine like NAV worm
protection, any anti-trojan software, OneCare Live, etc that may be blocking
incoming Remote Desktop connections?

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Correct on the PC names and host/client references.

The port is listening. I also verified it with a netstat command.

I do not have NAV worm, anti-trojan, OneCare, or anything of the sort. The
machines are using only the windows firewall which is configured for RD. One
has a BRAND NEW (OS) and the other is ran very tightly and clean.

I'm baffled that I still can't get this to work.
 
Everett H. Leaper said:
Also: the port exception for Remote Desktop is set for and "any computer"
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Is either PC a laptop? If so can you bring it to a friends or family members
house and try to connect to a different PC with RDP?

Any chance you have a friend or family member with a laptop that they can
bring over to your place and test from their machine?

Are both computers connecting wirelessly to the router or just one? Have you
tried connecting both via wired Ethernet connections and retesting?

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well both computers can connect to my office via RD. Granted the host at my
office is a server 2003 and not a regular PC, also it's not on my local
network... but both can connect. Wouldn't that suggest that it's either the
host computer with a fault or my network?

LLOffice is a wireless notebook. BBOffice is a wired & wireless desktop.
 
Everett H. Leaper said:
well both computers can connect to my office via RD. Granted the host at
my
office is a server 2003 and not a regular PC, also it's not on my local
network... but both can connect. Wouldn't that suggest that it's either
the
host computer with a fault or my network?

LLOffice is a wireless notebook. BBOffice is a wired & wireless desktop.
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Well, I would try...

1. Connect the LLOffice notebook to the router via a wired Ethernet
connection and its wireless NIC is disabled.
2. Make sure the BBOffice PC is connected to the router via a wired Ethernet
connection and its wireless NIC is disabled.
3. Test Remote Desktop both ways.

If you still can't make a connection I would reflash the Linksys router with
the newest firmware available. Its possible the firmware is hosed.

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I tried this both ways. The results are the same.

The most quanitfied status I can give...

When I ping from the host I can ping bytyping in the client's ip or computer
name.

When I ping from the client I have to type the host's computer name. The ip
does not work.

Lastly, when I try to remote into the host (using the host's computer name)
I see the computer name at the top of the screen but recieve only a
blank/black screen. It does not connect at all using the IP.
 
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