A mouse with 17 buttons

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What will they think of next.

Voice-activated macroing/scripting.
No reaching for buttons, keys, or keystroke combinations. You
never run out of buttons or keys. Words are much easier to
remember. Just point and script.

This gadget offers a dozen functional buttons to a single digit
(right thumb.) The AT keyboard design of the 1980s, by contrast,
offered 10 or 12 F-keys to the left hand (at the left side of the
alphanumeric keyboard) and 18 to the right hand (numerical
keypad) i.e. remains faster for the touch-typist.
 

Why not add a phone function to the mouse? :)


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Why not add a phone function to the mouse? :)
And a button to start the coffee pot would be nice.

Soon we will be playing games with gestures ... :)

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Metspitzer said:
That would be a sweet idea. My fingers don't work very well.
Voice commands would rule.

I use about 95 global Windows voice-activated macros, and a
multitude of program specific scripts. The vocabulary is
constantly changing/evolving, for years. Using voice for playing
real-time strategy (RTS) too. Speech recognition for dictation is
difficult, but a relatively tiny vocabulary for command and
control of a PC or a game is much easier.

Unfortunately, just getting everything setup is rocket science.
And then you must speak clearly enough for a stupid computer to
understand what you say (that IMO is the only real deterrent for a
skilled PC user). The system works great here, though. The stuff
almost never confuses words I am trying to type with commands.
When I voice a short word or phrase for typing, I hold the control
key to force dictation. Most of my commands are single syllables,
and the system always correctly interprets them as a command if
control is not being held down. Usually commands can be strung
together, but every once in a while that fails in Windows for some
unknown reason I haven't taken the time to figure out. I think
continuous command recognition only fails in a text editor. In a
game like RTS, stringing commands together never fails.

Using the stuff is a simple matter of memorization by practice.
When you keep changing stuff around, you have to keep relearning
it, but you get used to that too.

These are my global Windows voice-activated macros. Some of them
allow for repetition.

#edit after click
"stack[<n>]":#click, backspace
Mouse("left/1")+
Key("backspace:%(n)d"),
"steak[<n>]":#click, paste
Mouse("left/1")+
(
Key("c-v/10")
)
*Repeat(extra="n"),
"stock":#click, copy
Mouse("left/1")+
Key("c-c/10"),
"stuck":#click, cut
Mouse("left/1")+
Key("c-x/10"),
#edit after click
#edit after double-click
"bop[<n>]":#double-click, backspace
Mouse("left:2/1")+
Key("backspace:%(n)d"),
"cop":#double-click, copy
Mouse("left:2/1")+
Key("c-c/10"),
"pop":#double-click, paste
Mouse("left:2/1")+
Key("c-v/10"),
"rop":#double-click, cut
Mouse("left:2/1")+
Key("c-x/10"),
#edit after double-click
#edit, line
"box":#select line and backspace
Mimic("line")+
Mimic("port"),
"cox":#select line and copy
Mimic("line")+
Mimic("get"),
"pox":#select line and paste
Mimic("line")+
Mimic("set"),
"rox":#select line and cut
Mimic("line")+
Mimic("set"),
#edit, line
#edit, miscellaneous
"and it":#change "and" to "end"
Mouse("left:2/10")+
Key("e,n,d/10")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"set[<n>]":#paste
(
Key("c-v/15")
)
*Repeat(extra="n")+
Mouse("left:up")+
Key("ctrl:up"),
#edit, miscellaneous
#edit, navigation, use with "grab" requires shift up
"down[<n>]":#down
Key("down:%(n)d/15")+
Key("shift:up"),
"east[<n>]":#move to end of line
Key("end:%(n)d/15")+
Key("shift:up"),
"left[<n>]":#left
Key("left:%(n)d/15")+
Key("shift:up"),
"north":#move to top of document
Key("c-home/15")+
Key("shift:up")+
Key("ctrl:up"),
"right[<n>]":#right
Key("right:%(n)d/15")+
Key("shift:up"),
"south":#move to bottom of document
Key("c-end/15")+
Key("shift:up")+
Key("ctrl:up"),
"up[<n>]":#up
Key("up:%(n)d/15")+
Key("shift:up"),
"west[<n>]":#move to beginning of line
Key("home:%(n)d/15")+
Key("shift:up"),
#edit, navigation, use with "grab" requires shift up
#edit selected text
"cut":#cut
Mouse("left:up/1")+
Key("c-x/10"),
"get":#copy
Mouse("left:up/1")+
Key("c-c/10")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\beep.wav"),
#edit selected text
#FocusWindow
"script":#bring script editor to foreground
Mouse("left:up")+
Key("win")+
Pause("20")+
FocusWindow(None,"Komodo"),
"browse":#bring browser to foreground
Mouse("left:up")+
Key("win")+
Pause("20")+
FocusWindow(None,"Firefox"),
"program":#bring IDE to foreground
Mouse("left:up")+
Key("win")+
Pause("20")+
FocusWindow(None,"keypad"),
"scribe":#bring scratchpad to foreground
Mouse("left:up")+
Key("win")+
Pause("20")+
FocusWindow(None,"Notepad"),
#FocusWindow
#key
#some require mouse up for "G" command
"go[<n>]":#enter
Mouse("left:up/1")+
Key("enter:%(n)d"),
"next[<n>]":#F3
Key("f3:%(n)d"),
"port[<n>]":#backspace
Mouse("left:up/1")+
Key("backspace:%(n)d"),
"space[<n>]":#space
Mouse("left:up/1")+
Key("space:%(n)d"),
"tab[<n>]":#tab
Mouse("left:up/1")+
Key("tab:%(n)d"),
"trash[<n>]":#delete
Mouse("left:up/1")+
Key("delete:%(n)d"),
#key
#select
"all":#select all under pointer
Mouse("left/10")+
Pause("20")+
Key("c-a")+
Pause("20")+
Key("ctrl:up"),
"grab":#select from point
Mouse("left/1")+
Key("shift:down/1"),
"there":#select to point
Key("shift:down/1")+
Mouse("left/1")+
Key("shift:up/1"),
"line":#select line under pointer
Mouse("left/1")+
Key("end,s-home/1"),
#select
#operates on preselected text
#requires mouse up for "G" command
"define":#define selected word
#must have browser open
Mouse("left:up")+
Pause("15")+
Key("c-c/10")+
Key("win/10")+
FocusWindow(None,"Firefox")+
Pause("40")+
Key("a-d/20")+
Text(r"http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/")+
Pause("20")+
Key("c-v/10")+
Key("enter")+
Key("ctrl:up"),
"finder":#finds selected text from here down
Mouse("left:up")+
Key("c-c")+
Key("c-f")+
Pause("20")+
Key("c-v")+
Key("enter/10")+
Key("escape")+
Key("ctrl:up")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"high":#make first letter of each word uppercase
Mouse("left:up")+
Mimic("\\Cap","that")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"highest":#make all uppercase
Mouse("left:up")+
Mimic("\\All-Caps","that")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"low":#make lowercase
Mouse("left:up")+
Mimic("\\No-Caps","that")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"read":#use TTS to read selected text
Mouse("left:up")+
Key("c-f1")+
Pause("300")+
Mouse("left/10")+
Key("ctrl:up"),
"replace":#opens find/replace dialog with selected text
Mouse("left:up")+
Pause("15")+
Key("c-h")+
Pause("20")+
Key("tab")+
Pause("10")+
Key("ctrl:up"),
"replace it":#opens find/replace dialog with selected text
Mouse("left:up")+
Pause("15")+
Key("c-c")+
Key("c-h")+
Pause("20")+
Key("tab")+
Pause("10")+
Key("c-v")+
Pause("10")+
Key("cs-home")+
Key("ctrl:up")+
Key("shift:up"),
"topper":#finds selected text from top of document
Mouse("left:up")+
Pause("15")+
Key("c-c")+
Key("c-home")+
Pause("10")+
Key("c-f")+
Pause("20")+
Key("c-v")+
Key("enter")+
Key("escape")+
Key("ctrl:up")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
#operates on preselected text
#visible key press
"comma":#comma
Key("comma"),
"hyphen":#insert hyphen
Key("hyphen"),
"hyphens":#remove space, insert hyphen
Mouse("left/1")+
Key("left/1")+
Key("del/1")+
Key("hyphen"),
"plus":#plus sign
Key("plus"),
"quest":#question mark
Key("s-slash"),
"sign":#at sign
Key("at"),
#visible key press
#key shortcuts
"closet":#close current document/program
Key("a-f4"),
"save":#save changes to document
Key("c-s")+
Key("ctrl:up")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"search":#bring up find/search dialog
Key("c-f/10")+
Pause("10")+
Key("ctrl:up"),
"search it":#bring up find/search dialog and paste selected text
Key("c-f")+
Pause("30")+
Key("c-v")+
Key("ctrl:up"),
"off":#turn off microphone
Key("npdiv")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boomz1.wav"),
#key shortcuts
#mouse shortcuts
"click[<n>][<t>]":#click n times at t interval
(
Mouse("left/10")+
(
Pause("100")
)
*Repeat(extra="t")
)
*Repeat(extra="n")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"once":#click
Mouse("left/5"),
"twice":#double-click
Mouse("left:2/5"),
"trip":#triple-click
Mouse("left:3/5"),
"quad":#triple-click
Mouse("left:4/5"),
"gee":#mouse button down
Mouse("left:down")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\beep.wav"),
"ex":#mouse button up
Mouse("left:up")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"G1":#timed click and drag
Mouse("left:down")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\beep.wav")+
Pause("100")+
Mouse("left:up")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"G2":#timed click and drag
Mouse("left:down")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\beep.wav")+
Pause("200")+
Mouse("left:up")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"G3":#timed click and drag
Mouse("left:down")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\beep.wav")+
Pause("300")+
Mouse("left:up")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"G4":#timed click and drag
Mouse("left:down")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\beep.wav")+
Pause("400")+
Mouse("left:up")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"ten":#double-click, timed
Mouse("left/5")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\beep.wav")+
Pause("100")+
Mouse("left/5")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"twenty":#double-click, timed
Mouse("left/5")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\beep.wav")+
Pause("200")+
Mouse("left/5")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"thirty":#double-click, timed
Mouse("left/5")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\beep.wav")+
Pause("300")+
Mouse("left/5")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"forty":#double-click, timed
Mouse("left/5")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\beep.wav")+
Pause("400")+
Mouse("left/5")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
#mouse shortcuts
#miscellaneous
"angle":#put angle marks around text left of cursor, from cursor to pointer
Key("rangle")+
Mouse("left/10")+
Pause("20")+
Key("langle"),
"braces":#put braces around text left of cursor, from cursor to pointer
Key("rbrace")+
Mouse("left/10")+
Key("lbrace"),
"bracket":#put brackets around text left of cursor, from cursor to pointer
Key("rbracket")+
Mouse("left/10")+
Key("lbracket"),
"escape[<n>]":#press escape key
(#timing
Key("escape")+
Pause("20")
)#timing
*Repeat(extra="n"),
"fresh":#refresh, browser or file manager
Key("f5/10")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"parent":#put parenthesis around text left of cursor, from cursor to pointer
Key("rparen")+
Mouse("left/1")+
Key("lparen")+
Key("end")+
Key("space"),
"place windows":#after reboot, arrange desktop windows
#Messages from Python Macros
Mouse("[201,12]/5,left:down/25")+
Mouse("[188,921]/5,left:up/25")+
#Date and Time Properties
Mouse("[1880,1188]/5,left:2/5")+
WaitWindow(title="Date and Time Properties",timeout=4)+
FocusWindow(title="Date and Time Properties")+
Pause("100")+
#move it using the menu
Key("a-space/20")+
Key("m/20")+
Mouse("left:down/20")+
Mouse("[172,678]/20,left:up/5")+
#Performance
Mouse("[159,400]/20,left:down/20")+
Mouse("[143,398]/20,left:up/20")+
#click on the window
Mouse("[179,1090]/20,left/20")+
#switch to editor
FocusWindow(title="Komodo Edit")+
Pause("20")+
Mouse("[934,573]/20,left/5")+
Mimic("fold")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"quoted":#quote text left of cursor, from cursor to pointer
Key("quote")+
Mouse("left/10")+
Pause("20")+
Key("quote"),
"recycle":#empty recycle bin
Function(get_position)+
Pause("20")+
Mouse("[59,37]/20,right/20")+
Key("b/20")+
Key("y/20")+
Function(set_position)+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"switch[<n>]":#switch between Windows
Key("alt:down")+
(
Key("tab")
)
*Repeat(extra="n")+
Key("alt:up"),
"undo[<n>]":#undo last action, same as Windows shortcut key
Key("c-z:%(n)d")+
Key("ctrl:up"),
#miscellaneous
#programs
"four task":#Task Manager, for Starcraft 2
StartApp(r"C:\WINDOWS\system32\taskmgr.exe")+
WaitWindow(title="Windows Task Manager",timeout=4)+
FocusWindow(title="Windows Task Manager")+
Pause("20")+
Mouse("(109,68)/5,left/20")+#processes tab
Mouse("(204,104)/5,left/60")+#virtual memory size
Mouse("(204,104)/5,left/60")+#virtual memory size
Mouse("(111,120),right/20")+
Key("a/20")+#affinity
Key("down:3/40")+
Key("space/80")+#toggle CPU 3
Key("enter/10")+#exit dialog
Key("escape/10")+#exit task manager
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"higher":#Performance Monitor
Function(get_position)+
Mouse("[19,605]/10,right/20")+
Key("r/15")+
WaitWindow(title="System Monitor Properties",timeout=4)+
Pause("20")+
Key("tab/15:4")+
Key("down/40")+
Key("enter/10")+
Function(set_position)+
Mouse("left/15")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"lower":#Performance Monitor
Function(get_position)+
Mouse("[19,605]/10,right/10")+
Key("r/15")+
Mouse("right/25")+
Key("r/5")+
WaitWindow(title="System Monitor Properties",timeout=4)+
Pause("20")+
Key("tab/15:4")+
Key("up/40")+
Key("enter/100")+
Function(set_position)+
#Mouse("left/15")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"number":#Firefox, look up DNS
#must have browser open
Mouse("left:up/15")+
Key("c-c/10")+
Key("win/10")+
FocusWindow(None,"Mozilla Firefox")+
Pause("20")+
Key("c-t/40")+
Text(r"http://www.ipchecking.com/")+
Key("enter/400")+
Key("c-v/10")+
Key("enter/5")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"one task":#Task Manager, for Starcraft 2
StartApp(r"C:\WINDOWS\system32\taskmgr.exe")+
WaitWindow(title="Windows Task Manager",timeout=4)+
FocusWindow(title="Windows Task Manager")+
Pause("20")+
Mouse("(109,68)/5,left/20")+#processes tab
Mouse("(204,104)/5,left/60")+#virtual memory size
Mouse("(204,104)/5,left/60")+#virtual memory size
Mouse("(111,120),right/20")+
Key("a/20")+#affinity
#Key("down:1/20")+
Key("space/80")+#toggle CPU 0
Key("enter/10")+#exit dialog
Key("escape/10")+#exit task manager
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"three task":#Task Manager, for Starcraft 2
StartApp(r"C:\WINDOWS\system32\taskmgr.exe")+
WaitWindow(title="Windows Task Manager",timeout=4)+
FocusWindow(title="Windows Task Manager")+
Pause("20")+
Mouse("(109,68)/5,left/20")+#processes tab
Mouse("(204,104)/5,left/60")+#virtual memory size
Mouse("(204,104)/5,left/60")+#virtual memory size
Mouse("(111,120),right/20")+
Key("a/20")+#affinity
Key("down:2/40")+
Key("space/80")+#toggle CPU 2
Key("enter/10")+#exit dialog
Key("escape/10")+#exit task manager
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"translate":#Firefox, translate selected text
Mouse("left:up")+
Pause("15")+
Key("c-c")+
Pause("20")+
FocusWindow(None,"Babel Fish")+
Mouse("[874,682]/5")+
Pause("20")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\beep.wav")+
Pause("150")+
Mouse("left:2")+
Pause("30")+
Key("c-a")+
Pause("20")+
Key("c-v")+
Pause("20")+
Key("tab:2")+
Pause("20")+
Key("enter")+
Key("ctrl:up"),
"two task":#Task Manager, for Starcraft 2
StartApp(r"C:\WINDOWS\system32\taskmgr.exe")+
WaitWindow(title="Windows Task Manager",timeout=4)+
FocusWindow(title="Windows Task Manager")+
Pause("20")+
Mouse("(109,68)/5,left/20")+#processes tab
Mouse("(204,104)/5,left/60")+#virtual memory size
Mouse("(204,104)/5,left/60")+#virtual memory size
Mouse("(111,120),right/20")+
Key("a/20")+#affinity
Key("down:1/40")+
Key("space/80")+#toggle CPU 1
Key("enter/10")+#exit dialog
Key("escape/10")+#exit task manager
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
#programs
 


I just couldn't use that Razer at all, and I use the mouse with my left
hand. All those nice replies of how lots nice of macros are available. The
Logitech G15/19 keyboards make that mouse worthless in that respect.

The G19 keyboard and has 18 macro buttons, or the old great G15 has/had 54;
Macros on the fly, shoot even a LCD for graphics. Lots of programs have
hooks for the keyboard. I monitor my CPU and GPU temps with it.
http://www.everythingusb.com/images/list/logitech-new-g15-vs-old-g15.jpg
I have the older nicer one.

I was given this Track Ball it's wireless and the price will shock you.
It's got lots of buttons, I was looking forward to using on some games. I
found just can't use a track ball.
http://www.pcworld.com/product/2073...ackball_4button_usb_6_direct_web_buttons.html
I uderstand it's the direct cause of missing 8 balls, as the roller ball is
the exact size of a pool ball.
----

If I had an OS prior to XP I could use In Cube, and have my voice commands.
I had that for Win95,98,NT,W2K. I do miss that program...
http://www.speech.cs.cmu.edu/comp.speech/Section6/Recognition/incube.html
----

Thanks for the link I'm going to post it to my clan site, and see their
reaction. The Battle Field series has lots of commands, and the
newest is coming out soon. Some members are Alpha testing it now, be
interesting to see what they think of it.
 
Pennywise said:
Thanks for the link I'm going to post it to my clan site, and
see their reaction. The Battle Field series has lots of
commands, and the newest is coming out soon. Some members are
Alpha testing it now, be interesting to see what they think of
it.

This looks interesting to me.

http://www.ghoztcraft.net/forums/index.php
"Gaming Made Easy"

I might give up trying to voice automate Starcraft 2, the
interface appears to be totally retarded. Apparently Blizzard
designs the Starcraft interface for "GREAT MICRO!" I have learned
the same lesson more than once before, the first Starcraft was
worse. I can use voice-activated macroing with a first-person
shooter (FPS) like Battlefield better than with Starcraft 2.
Supreme Commander 2 is great for macroing, but few people play it.
 
Unfortunately, just getting everything setup is rocket science.
And then you must speak clearly enough for a stupid computer to
understand what you say (that IMO is the only real deterrent for a
skilled PC user).

That's what I encountered on Dragon Dictate and Via Voice. I'd read a book
for an hour or more just to get them trained, if I didn't use them for a
month I had to retrain them all over again My most important backups were
the config files for my training.

I quit using them as I was continually retraining words. That and the
microphone you use is very important, if your $100 one doesn't work
well there's a $150 one available, then the ambient sound factor...

Computer speed was necessary, the execption being In Cube it ran on a
233Mhz just fine.

For voice commands I've found distinctly different three word phrases the
easiest for both me and the program being used. Any more or less the
programs had a tendency to misinterpret.

I've just had bad experiences with voice recognition software due to the
above and just don't mess with them anymore.
 
This looks interesting to me.

http://www.ghoztcraft.net/forums/index.php
"Gaming Made Easy"

Ah, that's pretty much a hack site. The only one I use is www.MPGH.net
My Introduction
http://www.mpgh.net/forum/195-member-introduction-return/217846-just-hello.html
It's one of the best, and loaded with information.

I also used to ban cheaters for www.AlterIW.net (MW2) it was my support for
the project. I was very happy to be able to help them out, and it was a bit
of work. NT authority and Max Damage rock and rule! :)
I can use voice-activated macroing with a first-person
shooter (FPS) like Battlefield better than with Starcraft 2.
Supreme Commander 2 is great for macroing, but few people play it.

Call of Duty is my game I still play COD4 daily. After 6:00pm when the
sites die, I'll play MW2. I don't care to purchase DLC's after I have
already bought the game, so I can play limited COD7 every now and again.

But then I follow my son around to play with him when I can.

COD commands are very simple I don't think I would need more than just
a few "Toss The grenade", "Set Claymore Down", and "Throw Flash Now".
Those are on my tilting mouse wheel and not always on demand. I tilt but
nothing happens so I work with it awhile and get shot in the process.

The Battle Field series has lots of commnads as you drive vehicles, and fly
aircraft. I could see using voice macros for flying a helicopter or jet.
anything would help.

I use my mouse with my left hand, so use the right hand side of my keyboard
(Keypad) for my commands, BF has more commands than I
can place. Macros would only work for setting claymores or switching out
weapons.

I just haven't used voice commands in a long while, so I don't even know
what's available.

MineCraft, my G15 keyboard is set up with lots of macros for that game
it's about the only game I use macros for. Battle Field 2 I do have one to
crouch as it's the only way you could do it.

My COD7 claim to fame - I found the very first glitch.
It's also my most popular video.
 
This looks interesting to me.

http://www.ghoztcraft.net/forums/index.php
"Gaming Made Easy"

I might give up trying to voice automate Starcraft 2, the
interface appears to be totally retarded. Apparently Blizzard
designs the Starcraft interface for "GREAT MICRO!" I have learned
the same lesson more than once before, the first Starcraft was
worse. I can use voice-activated macroing with a first-person
shooter (FPS) like Battlefield better than with Starcraft 2.
Supreme Commander 2 is great for macroing, but few people play it.


I'm also a righty with a Logitec trackball. Maybe not up to gammer
league, but sufficient (Logi gives it a good s/w level customization
for orientation) to confound most anyone causually asking "can I use
your computer to goto. . ." Hooked and on my second steel roller
supports after wearing out the first's plastic plastic standoffs.

If you want a coffee heater-upper installed into a mouse, DealExtreme
directly out of Singapore has some interesting mini-keyboard
advancements. Maybe. I make my coffee in an Italian La Pavoni -- Pro
model of course.

PayPal is a 30- or 45-day arbitration policy. DE's worth it for the
most, but still with a good chance you'll need it.

Still wanna talk. . .Opera's newest 11.5-ish is now voice activated.
Slick interface for the top4 (FF, Chrome, IE, then Opera), reviewers
do like its voice, tho think I'll wait for the "scream at" update
revision.
 
Posting something in public helps me see cosmetic errors, so I
cleaned them up a bit.

Some of the following Windows macros are simple, some are complex,
and they are constantly evolving. One recent addition that looks
promising is a simple macro combining a single click with a
repeatable backspace. Saying "stack" single clicks and single
backspaces. Suffixing a number to the word "stack" multiplies the
number of backspaces, like "stack 3" single clicks and backspaces
three times. Another is including a single click with the word
"grab". That single clicks and holds shift down. So the expression
"grab east" single clicks and selects text from the current
pointer position to the end of the line. Saying "grab north"
replicates the actions... click, control+shift+home.







#edit after click
"stack[<n>]":#click, backspace
Mouse("left/10")+
Key("backspace:%(n)d"),
"steak[<n>]":#click, paste
Mouse("left/10")+
(
Key("c-v/10")
)
*Repeat(extra="n"),
"stock":#click, copy
Mouse("left/10")+
Key("c-c/10"),
"stuck":#click, cut
Mouse("left/10")+
Key("c-x/10"),
#edit after click
#edit after double-click
"bop[<n>]":#double-click, backspace
Mouse("left:2/10")+
Key("backspace:%(n)d"),
"cop":#double-click, copy
Mouse("left:2/10")+
Key("c-c/10"),
"pop":#double-click, paste
Mouse("left:2/10")+
Key("c-v/10"),
"rop":#double-click, cut
Mouse("left:2/10")+
Key("c-x/10"),
#edit after double-click
#edit, line
"box[<n>]":#select line, backspace
Mouse("left/5")+
Key("end/5,s-home/5")+
Key("backspace:%(n)d"),
"cox":#select line, copy
Mouse("left/5")+
Key("end/5,s-home/5")+
Key("c-c/10"),
"pox":#select line and paste
Mouse("left/5")+
Key("end/5,s-home/5")+
Key("c-v/10"),
"rox":#select line and cut
Mouse("left/5")+
Key("end/5,s-home/5")+
Key("c-x/10"),
#edit, line
#edit, miscellaneous
"angle":#put angle marks around text left of cursor, from cursor to pointer
Key("rangle")+
Mouse("left/10")+
Key("langle"),
"braces":#put braces around text left of cursor, from cursor to pointer
Key("rbrace")+
Mouse("left/10")+
Key("lbrace"),
"bracket":#put brackets around text left of cursor, from cursor to pointer
Key("rbracket")+
Mouse("left/10")+
Key("lbracket"),
"parent":#put parenthesis around text left of cursor, from cursor to pointer
Key("rparen")+
Mouse("left/10")+
Key("lparen")+
Key("end"),
"quoted":#quote text left of cursor, from cursor to pointer
Key("quote")+
Mouse("left/10")+
Key("quote")+
Key("end"),
"replace":#open find and replace
Mouse("left:up/1")+
Key("c-h/15")+
Key("tab"),
"search":#bring up find/search dialog
Key("c-f/15"),
"set[<n>]":#paste
Mouse("left:up/1")+
(
Key("c-v/10")
)
*Repeat(extra="n"),
"undo[<n>]":#undo
Key("c-z:%(n)d/10"),
#edit, miscellaneous
#edit, navigation, shift-up is for "grab"
"down[<n>]":#down
Key("down:%(n)d/10")+
Key("shift:up"),
"east[<n>]":#move to end of line
Key("end:%(n)d/10")+
Key("shift:up"),
"left[<n>]":#left
Key("left:%(n)d/10")+
Key("shift:up"),
"north":#move to top of document
Key("c-home/10")+
Key("shift:up"),
"right[<n>]":#right
Key("right:%(n)d/10")+
Key("shift:up"),
"south":#move to bottom of document
Key("c-end/10")+
Key("shift:up"),
"up[<n>]":#up
Key("up:%(n)d/10")+
Key("shift:up"),
"west[<n>]":#move to beginning of line
Key("home:%(n)d/10")+
Key("shift:up"),
#edit, navigation, shift-up is for "grab"
#edit, select text
"all":#select all under pointer
Mouse("left/10")+
Key("c-a/20"),
"grab":#select from point
Mouse("left/10")+
Key("shift:down/5"),
"there":#select to point
Key("shift:down/5")+
Mouse("left/10")+
Key("shift:up/5"),
#edit, select text
#edit, selected text
#requires mouse up for "gee" command
"cut":#cut
Mouse("left:up/1")+
Key("c-x/10"),
"define":#define selected word
#must have browser open
Mouse("left:up/1")+
Key("c-c/10")+
Key("win/10")+
FocusWindow(None,"Firefox")+
Pause("40")+
Key("a-d/20")+
Text(r"http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/")+
Pause("40")+
Key("c-v/10")+
Key("enter"),
"finder":#finds selected text from here down
Mouse("left:up/1")+
Key("c-c/10")+
Key("c-f/15")+
Key("c-v/10")+
Key("enter/10")+
Key("escape")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"get":#copy
Mouse("left:up/1")+
Key("c-c/10")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"high":#make first letter of each word uppercase
Mouse("left:up/1")+
Mimic("\\Cap","that")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"highest":#make all uppercase
Mouse("left:up/1")+
Mimic("\\All-Caps","that")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"low":#make lowercase
Mouse("left:up/1")+
Mimic("\\No-Caps","that")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"read":#use TTS to read selected text
Mouse("left:up/1")+
Key("c-f1/300")+
Mouse("left"),
"replace it":#copy, for find and replace
Mouse("left:up/1")+
Key("c-c/10")+
Key("c-h/15")+
Key("tab/5")+
Key("c-v/10")+
Key("cs-home"),
"search it":#open search dialog with selected text
Key("c-f/15")+
Key("c-v"),
"topper":#finds selected text from top of document
Mouse("left:up/1")+
Key("c-c/10")+
Key("c-home/15")+
Key("c-f/15")+
Key("c-v/10")+
Key("enter/10")+
Key("escape")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
#edit, selected text
#FocusWindow
"script":#bring script editor to foreground
Mouse("left:up/1")+
Key("win")+
Pause("20")+
FocusWindow(None,"Komodo"),
"browse":#bring browser to foreground
Mouse("left:up/1")+
Key("win")+
Pause("20")+
FocusWindow(None,"Firefox"),
"program":#bring IDE to foreground
Mouse("left:up/1")+
Key("win")+
Pause("20")+
FocusWindow(None,"keypad"),
"scribe":#bring scratchpad to foreground
Mouse("left:up/1")+
Key("win")+
Pause("20")+
FocusWindow(None,"Notepad"),
#FocusWindow
#mouse shortcuts
"click[<n>][<t>]":#click n times at t interval
(
Mouse("left/10")+
(
Pause("100")
)
*Repeat(extra="t")
)
*Repeat(extra="n")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"once":#click
Mouse("left:1/10"),
"twice":#double-click
Mouse("left:2/10"),
"trip":#triple-click
Mouse("left:3/10"),
"quad":#quadruple-click
Mouse("left:4/10"),
"gee":#mouse button down
Mouse("left:down")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\beep.wav"),
"ex":#mouse button up
Mouse("left:up")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"G1":#timed click and drag
Mouse("left:down")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\beep.wav")+
Pause("100")+
Mouse("left:up")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"G2":#timed click and drag
Mouse("left:down")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\beep.wav")+
Pause("200")+
Mouse("left:up")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"G3":#timed click and drag
Mouse("left:down")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\beep.wav")+
Pause("300")+
Mouse("left:up")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"G4":#timed click and drag
Mouse("left:down")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\beep.wav")+
Pause("400")+
Mouse("left:up")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"ten":#double-click, timed
Mouse("left")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\beep.wav")+
Pause("100")+
Mouse("left/10")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"twenty":#double-click, timed
Mouse("left")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\beep.wav")+
Pause("200")+
Mouse("left/10")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"thirty":#double-click, timed
Mouse("left")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\beep.wav")+
Pause("300")+
Mouse("left/10")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"forty":#double-click, timed
Mouse("left")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\beep.wav")+
Pause("400")+
Mouse("left/10")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
#mouse shortcuts
#miscellaneous
"closet":#close current document/program
Key("a-f4"),
"escape[<n>]":#escape
(#timing
Key("escape")+
Pause("10")
)#timing
*Repeat(extra="n"),
"fresh":#refresh, browser or file manager
Key("f5")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"off":#turn off microphone
Key("npdiv")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boomz1.wav"),
"place windows":#after reboot, arrange desktop windows
#Messages from Python Macros
Mouse("[201,12]/5,left:down/25")+
Mouse("[188,921]/5,left:up/25")+
#Date and Time Properties
Mouse("[1880,1188]/5,left:2/5")+
WaitWindow(title="Date and Time Properties",timeout=4)+
FocusWindow(title="Date and Time Properties")+
Pause("100")+
#move it using the menu
Key("a-space/20")+
Key("m/20")+
Mouse("left:down/20")+
Mouse("[172,678]/20,left:up/5")+
#Performance
Mouse("[159,400]/20,left:down/20")+
Mouse("[143,398]/20,left:up/20")+
#click on the window
Mouse("[179,1090]/20,left/20")+
#switch to editor
FocusWindow(title="Komodo Edit")+
Pause("20")+
Mouse("[934,573]/20,left/5")+
Mimic("fold")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"recycle":#empty recycle bin
Function(get_position)+
Mouse("[59,37]/20,right/20")+
Key("b/20")+
Key("y/20")+
Function(set_position)+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"save":#save changes to document
Key("c-s")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"switch[<n>]":#switch between Windows
Key("alt:down/5")+
(
Key("tab/5")
)
*Repeat(extra="n")+
Key("alt:up"),
#miscellaneous
#press key
#some require mouse up for "gee" command
"go[<n>]":#enter
Mouse("left:up/1")+
Key("enter:%(n)d/5"),
"next[<n>]":#F3
Key("f3:%(n)d/5"),
"port[<n>]":#backspace
Mouse("left:up/1")+
Key("backspace:%(n)d"),
"space[<n>]":#space
Mouse("left:up/1")+
Key("space:%(n)d/5"),
"tab[<n>]":#tab
Mouse("left:up/1")+
Key("tab:%(n)d/5"),
"trash[<n>]":#delete
Mouse("left:up/1")+
Key("delete:%(n)d/5"),
#press key
#press key, visible
"comma":#comma
Mouse("left:up/1")+
Key("comma"),
"hyphen":#insert hyphen
Mouse("left:up/1")+
Key("hyphen"),
"hyphens":#remove space, insert hyphen
Mouse("left/10")+
Key("left/1")+
Key("del/1")+
Key("hyphen"),
"plus":#plus sign
Mouse("left:up/1")+
Key("plus"),
"quest":#question mark
Mouse("left:up/1")+
Key("s-slash"),
"sign":#at sign
Mouse("left:up/1")+
Key("at"),
#press key, visible
#programs
"four task":#Task Manager
StartApp(r"C:\WINDOWS\system32\taskmgr.exe")+
WaitWindow(title="Windows Task Manager",timeout=4)+
FocusWindow(title="Windows Task Manager")+
Pause("20")+
Mouse("(109,68)/5,left/20")+#processes tab
Mouse("(204,104)/5,left/60")+#virtual memory size
Mouse("(204,104)/5,left/60")+#virtual memory size
Mouse("(111,120),right/20")+
Key("a/20")+#affinity
Key("down:3/40")+
Key("space/80")+#toggle CPU 3
Key("enter/10")+#exit dialog
Key("escape/10")+#exit task manager
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"higher":#Performance Monitor
Function(get_position)+
Mouse("[19,605]/10,right/20")+
Key("r/15")+
WaitWindow(title="System Monitor Properties",timeout=4)+
Pause("20")+
Key("tab/15:4")+
Key("down/40")+
Key("enter/10")+
Function(set_position)+
Mouse("left/15")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"lower":#Performance Monitor
Function(get_position)+
Mouse("[19,605]/10,right/10")+
Key("r/15")+
Mouse("right/25")+
Key("r/5")+
WaitWindow(title="System Monitor Properties",timeout=4)+
Pause("20")+
Key("tab/15:4")+
Key("up/40")+
Key("enter/100")+
Function(set_position)+
#Mouse("left/15")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"number":#Firefox, look up DNS
#must have browser open
Mouse("left:up/15")+
Key("c-c/10")+
Key("win/10")+
FocusWindow(None,"Mozilla Firefox")+
Pause("20")+
Key("c-t/40")+
Text(r"http://www.ipchecking.com/")+
Key("enter/400")+
Key("c-v/10")+
Key("enter/5")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"one task":#Task Manager
StartApp(r"C:\WINDOWS\system32\taskmgr.exe")+
WaitWindow(title="Windows Task Manager",timeout=4)+
FocusWindow(title="Windows Task Manager")+
Pause("20")+
Mouse("(109,68)/5,left/20")+#processes tab
Mouse("(204,104)/5,left/60")+#virtual memory size
Mouse("(204,104)/5,left/60")+#virtual memory size
Mouse("(111,120),right/20")+
Key("a/20")+#affinity
#Key("down:1/20")+
Key("space/80")+#toggle CPU 0
Key("enter/10")+#exit dialog
Key("escape/10")+#exit task manager
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"three task":#Task Manager
StartApp(r"C:\WINDOWS\system32\taskmgr.exe")+
WaitWindow(title="Windows Task Manager",timeout=4)+
FocusWindow(title="Windows Task Manager")+
Pause("20")+
Mouse("(109,68)/5,left/20")+#processes tab
Mouse("(204,104)/5,left/60")+#virtual memory size
Mouse("(204,104)/5,left/60")+#virtual memory size
Mouse("(111,120),right/20")+
Key("a/20")+#affinity
Key("down:2/40")+
Key("space/80")+#toggle CPU 2
Key("enter/10")+#exit dialog
Key("escape/10")+#exit task manager
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
"translate":#Firefox, translate selected text
Mouse("left:up/10")+
Key("c-c/10")+
FocusWindow(None,"Babel Fish")+
Mouse("[874,682]/1")+
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\beep.wav")+
Pause("150")+
Mouse("left:2/1")+
Key("c-a/10")+
Key("c-v/10")+
Key("tab:2/10")+
Key("enter"),
"two task":#Task Manager
StartApp(r"C:\WINDOWS\system32\taskmgr.exe")+
WaitWindow(title="Windows Task Manager",timeout=4)+
FocusWindow(title="Windows Task Manager")+
Pause("20")+
Mouse("(109,68)/5,left/20")+#processes tab
Mouse("(204,104)/5,left/60")+#virtual memory size
Mouse("(204,104)/5,left/60")+#virtual memory size
Mouse("(111,120),right/20")+
Key("a/20")+#affinity
Key("down:1/40")+
Key("space/80")+#toggle CPU 1
Key("enter/10")+#exit dialog
Key("escape/10")+#exit task manager
PlaySound(r"C:\Program Files\VoiceWorks\boop.wav"),
#programs
 
Pennywise said:
That's what I encountered on Dragon Dictate and Via Voice.

ViaVoice sucked IMO. Dragon Naturally Speaking has been the only
viable speech recognition, and probably still is for most people.
I always had a bad feeling about ViaVoice, because I got the
impression that it was programed like spaghetti (not modular) from
the way it interacted with my system.
I'd read a book for an hour or more just to get them trained

I am of the opinion that training a computer to do something is
mostly a waste of time. It should work well out of the box.
Naturally Speaking dropped the requirement for training, you can
skip that part now. Communicating with a stupid computer is like
communicating with a pet (no offense to pets). Adapting to the
computer is much easier and less disappointing than trying to make
it adapt to you. One thing I have found very useful is a modern
device called a digital voice recorder. I suppose everybody knows
now, but it's like a tape recorder but it's digital. I use them
mainly for a to-do and a to-buy list. I keep one around my
computer area as a to-do reminder, putting it someplace that's in
the way. The point... You perpetually hear yourself talk, and you
can quickly and repeatedly rerecord stuff until it sounds clear
enough (or until you give up). They work well for voice training.
That and the microphone you use is very important, if your $100
one doesn't work well there's a $150 one available, then the
ambient sound factor...

Things get loud here sometimes, but ambient noise is not a
problem.

I use a cheap Logitech USB headset microphone. I removed the
analog wire and replaced the short USB wire with a long wire from
a USB WebCam (if I recall correctly). Also made my own headset out
of aluminum flat bar and self-adhesive bubblewrap, I don't need
the headset speakers. That was many years ago, still using it.
There are probably thinner and lighter USB wires commonly
available now.

I have lots of experience with microphone salesmen. I don't
believe that a microphone makes much difference. Especially in the
earlier days of speech recognition, I think that speech
recognition microphone salesmen were mostly ripoff artists. They
know that your voice is much more important than the microphone,
but they wouldn't tell you that until they had soaked you for as
much as they could. Or maybe my $20 Logitech USB microphone is a
miracle.
Computer speed was necessary, the execption being In Cube it ran
on a 233Mhz just fine.

For voice commands I've found distinctly different three word
phrases the easiest for both me and the program being used. Any
more or less the programs had a tendency to misinterpret.

I've just had bad experiences with voice recognition software
due to the above and just don't mess with them anymore.

Things are changing, dude. Computers are getting faster, they can
handle the overhead now. Microphones are abundant and higher
quality. Windows knows how to do microphone input. Speech
recognition is "95% more accurate" with every release! Of course
not, but it is in fact improving. And, again, command and control
is much easier than general dictation.

Also helpful to the cause is carpal tunnel syndrome...
--
 
These are my global Windows voice-activated macros. Some of them
allow for repetition.

#edit after click
"stack[<n>]":#click, backspace
Mouse("left/1")+
Key("backspace:%(n)d"),
"steak[<n>]":#click, paste
Mouse("left/1")+
(
Key("c-v/10")
)
*Repeat(extra="n"),

What tool are you using?

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Messing with the voice recognition, I found that it works better if
there is no TV in the room and you use a headset with a mic. Using a
mic was at least as easy as using the touchpad.
 
Metspitzer said:
Messing with the voice recognition, I found that it works better
if there is no TV in the room and you use a headset with a mic.

My inexpensive USB headset microphone picks up almost no ambient
noises, even in a sometimes noisy environment. I get the
impression that even a desktop microphone would work here, but I
haven't tried one. Using a headset microphone to keep the
microphone in the same position probably helps a lot.
Using a mic was at least as easy as using the touchpad.

To be clear, FWIW... I constantly use the mouse for positioning.
Speech activated macros are used for almost all keystrokes and
clicks. Someone who cannot use a mouse for positioning can use a
head tracker, but I wouldn't want to. I have enjoyed using a
touchpad in the past, and now it might be even better since
clicking is unnecessary. I might check it out again, if my laser
mouse ever dies.
 
I use Dragon Naturally Speaking and Dragonfly. Any version of DNS
will do. Dragonfly is an open source Python-based third-party
addition to DNS (listed on Google code). I use Dragonflight as a
voice-activated macro recorder. Unfortunately, installing
Dragonfly is a bear. As usual, Microsoft is lagging the
technology. You might get results using Windows Speech
Recognition, but not nearly as much joy if you want to do Windows
automation efficiently. Naturally Speaking is still the best
speech recognition program. Another similar add-on to DNS is
called Vocola. It is okay, but it doesn't do Continuous Command
Recognition like Dragonfly does. Continuous command recognition
makes a big difference if you want to issue commands fluently. You
do not have to wait until the prior macro completes before issuing
another command. That helps if you want to speak like a human
being instead of a computer. You can build a personal vocabulary
and combine words instead of having to define every single
phrase.
 
I use Dragon Naturally Speaking and Dragonfly. Any version of DNS
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automation efficiently. Naturally Speaking is still the best

Thanks


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