A Farewell, plus 0x8DDD0018

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Frank Haber

I'm saying goodbye to this beta/preview. I just can't support a product I
can't believe in - there are absolutely no controls in this thing, no user
options. I can see that there's a market for that, a big mass market. It's
just that I wouldn't use it, and I don't recommend what I won't use. Insofar
as the experienced-user/word-of-mouth/early-adopter mini-segment (my segment)
still counts in a dumbed-down world, you have my vote - a vote with my feet.

Update flakiness and confusion were only minor irritations. The percieved
speed hit of running full-time protection was trivial compared with (shudder)
Symantec's. I can't speak to detect/remove capability, because I didn't have
any infections.

I guess the tipping factor was a quite bothersome 0x8DDD0018 WinUpdate problem
I had on one of my main machines, SP2, vanilla 3.2 Dell, no new software
recently, iTunes and MS Live Meeting wrapper the only recent uninstalls. I
keep this machine pretty lean and crisp.

None of the elaborate svcs-fiddling (autoupdate, event), reregistrations, or
COM+ reinstall* seemed to help. Instead of deleting the update history db, I
uninstalled Defender, ran MSI cleanup2 (nothing untoward), then tried System
Restore. This time Restore was good to me, restoring Update functionality and
completely eliminating a 1-2 minute period of unusabilty after turnon and
reboots. (This "thinking delay," which had only a moderate amount of disk
activity, had been getting longer and longer.)

I can't really coherently single out Defender for sole blame (interaction?),
but combined with the bad taste in my mouth, I'd reached the tipping point. I
never had a lick of trouble with Beta 1/Giant, and I gather I'm not alone in
this. Sorry.

* had to reinstall COM+ twice. The first time I got this peculiar errmsg:
"Sub-component COM+ raised an exception while processing the
OC_COMPLETE_INSTALLATION setup message.
d:\nt\com\com1x\src\complussetup\comsetup\ccompluscore.cpp (line 565) Error
Code = 0x80040206 An unexpected internal error was detectedThe COM+ event
classes could not be registered"
 
Frank Haber spewed out this bit, and i'll scatter a few bits myself
I'm saying goodbye to this beta/preview. I just can't support a
product I can't believe in - there are absolutely no controls in this
thing, no user options. I can see that there's a market for that, a
big mass market. It's just that I wouldn't use it, and I don't
recommend what I won't use. Insofar as the
experienced-user/word-of-mouth/early-adopter mini-segment (my
segment) still counts in a dumbed-down world, you have my vote - a
vote with my feet.
Update flakiness and confusion were only minor irritations. The
percieved speed hit of running full-time protection was trivial
compared with (shudder) Symantec's. I can't speak to detect/remove
capability, because I didn't have any infections.

It's no better at detect/remove than it is at anything else. I installed it
on a system that I knew had adware/spyware running out the computer's front
drive bays. Defender said the computer was running normally (LOL). I
installed the closest program to the first beta (Sunbelts CounterSpy) and
removed over 300 infected files. And no, these weren't cookies.


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Mhzjunkie

1 PRINT "Windows Defender ERROR"
GOTO 1
END
 
Hi

I believe it´s more important to be a Defender then a cleaner.

To clean up "junk PCs" we have severals programs but just a few
with real time protection.

Nevertheless MS maybe must speed up the RTP recognition also...

Otherwise this app also is "junk".

regards
plun
 
plun spewed out this bit, and i'll scatter a few bits myself

Otherwise this app also is "junk".

Agreed.

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Mhzjunkie

1 PRINT "Windows Defender ERROR"
GOTO 1
END
 
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