A 7500 is stuck with AGP x2? i815e chipset Abit SE6

[GinTonix]

Hi!

Got a problem. I have the Abit SE6 (yeah, it's an old one), the newest bios,
Win98 SE, 256MB PC133, and a P3 500E (previously had a Celeron 566 and the
problem was there as well) and I've tried to turn on the AGPx4 support for
my ATi (powered by them) Radeon 7500. No way it happens. It's always grayed
out (or the whole selection is nonexistant). Any ideas? Oh, the problem is
the same never mind if I overclock or not. The 566 Celeron worked pretty
well on 100MHz FSB, and the P3 500E seems to run smoothly on 150MHz (!) FSB.
But the AGPx4 seems to be impossible.

Should I get rid of the drivers completely and re-install or what? Pray?
Offer a chicken and spray some blood?

-gt

 

[Kent_Diego]

I have an old Abit SE6 system with 8500LE. I just checked the SmartGart tab
and AGP 4x is working great. You may need to install the chipset AGP drivers
as that is a common problem. So 4x AGP is enabled in BIOS?

My SE6 has been a very stable system although I had to replace a few
bulging/leaking capacitors, so check yours.

-Kent

 

[Darthy]

Hi!

Got a problem. I have the Abit SE6 (yeah, it's an old one), the newest bios,
Win98 SE, 256MB PC133, and a P3 500E (previously had a Celeron 566 and the
problem was there as well) and I've tried to turn on the AGPx4 support for
my ATi (powered by them) Radeon 7500. No way it happens. It's always grayed
out (or the whole selection is nonexistant). Any ideas? Oh, the problem is
the same never mind if I overclock or not. The 566 Celeron worked pretty
well on 100MHz FSB, and the P3 500E seems to run smoothly on 150MHz (!) FSB.
But the AGPx4 seems to be impossible.

Should I get rid of the drivers completely and re-install or what? Pray?
Offer a chicken and spray some blood?

if the video card works fine and the system works fine - I wouldn't
worry about it.

1 - AGP 4x isn't maxed out today.
2 - ATI 7000 seris is old and slow tech, it doesn't make AGP 2x sweat.
3 - Yyour P3-500 is slow, its not even pushing your card - with these
two, theres isn't a real bottleneck.

 

[GinTonix]

the
....
if the video card works fine and the system works fine - I wouldn't
worry about it.

They both do. That's not the point... I know what I want, I want it all and
I want it NOW! Seriously speaking, you are right. I was just wondering why
wasn't everything working like they should. Probably, if I got the AGPx4
working, the gain in 3dmarks would be like two points or some other odd
figure But what the hell is wrong with the AGPx4??? Never mind the gain,
I want to know!

1 - AGP 4x isn't maxed out today.

Right. At least with my other hardware.

2 - ATI 7000 seris is old and slow tech, it doesn't make AGP 2x sweat.
Right.

3 - Yyour P3-500 is slow, its not even pushing your card - with these
two, theres isn't a real bottleneck.

Yes, it seems that the CPU is the bottleneck. I pushed the FSB to 153MHz and
it gave a pretty good improvement using 3dmark for measurement.. Some 500E,
huh? To brag a bit, the temp keeps somewhere around 34-35 Centigrades. The
cooling is done by a trusty Golden Orb. Currently the Pentium is running at
667MHz to stay out of IDE troubles (the 153MHz made me reinstall
evertyhing).

You had THAT much?

-gt

 

[Darthy]

They both do. That's not the point... I know what I want, I want it all and
I want it NOW! Seriously speaking, you are right. I was just wondering why
wasn't everything working like they should. Probably, if I got the AGPx4
working, the gain in 3dmarks would be like two points or some other odd
figure But what the hell is wrong with the AGPx4??? Never mind the gain,
I want to know!

Nothing wrong with AGP 4x

Right. At least with my other hardware.

At least with current hardware too. Gains aren't typically worth the
price of a system upgrade.... but in your case it is.... but it has
nothing to do with the AGP port.

Yes, it seems that the CPU is the bottleneck. I pushed the FSB to 153MHz and
it gave a pretty good improvement using 3dmark for measurement.. Some 500E,
huh? To brag a bit, the temp keeps somewhere around 34-35 Centigrades. The
cooling is done by a trusty Golden Orb. Currently the Pentium is running at
667MHz to stay out of IDE troubles (the 153MHz made me reinstall
evertyhing).

In light of today... any P3 is nothing to brag about not when you
can buy a 64bit CPU for about $200 + $130 for the motherboard with
SATA/RAID/Firewire/USB2.0 and support for 4GB RAM.

You had THAT much?

Yes...and I'm refering to my Amiga (look up Amiga 1000). My entire OS
booted from a 880k Floppy (about 300K was the actual OS, which
supported preemptive Multitasking since 1985 - 10 years before M$
Windows) Microsoft / Windows - state of the art... blahah hahaha


My first computer had 3.5k of RAM. Then 128k.

 

[GinTonix]

....

Nothing wrong with AGP 4x

Yep, in my setup there is. It's "on" in the bios but won't turn on (heh).

At least with current hardware too. Gains aren't typically worth the
price of a system upgrade.... but in your case it is.... but it has
nothing to do with the AGP port.

I know. But I was just wondering why it would not work like it should.

In light of today... any P3 is nothing to brag about not when you
can buy a 64bit CPU for about $200 + $130 for the motherboard with
SATA/RAID/Firewire/USB2.0 and support for 4GB RAM.

That's true. The old junk is just a hobby for me. Besides, a P3 500 (or some
other CPU of the same performance or even lower) is fast enough for your
everyday word processing, spreadsheed spreading and such. The story is
different if you want to do something resource hungry like online digital
video editing.

Yes...and I'm refering to my Amiga (look up Amiga 1000). My entire OS
booted from a 880k Floppy (about 300K was the actual OS, which
supported preemptive Multitasking since 1985 - 10 years before M$
Windows) Microsoft / Windows - state of the art... blahah hahaha

Yeah, I fiddled with one (A1000) back in ´85 or ´86. One of my friends
visited US and brought one home with him.

My first computer had 3.5k of RAM. Then 128k.

My first one had 16k And 16 more k's of video memory, separately
addressable (actually, you had to tickle the output ports of the Z80 to
access it). Hmm... How much did a C VIC have memory?

-gt