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Inglo
What have you got now?
I just got a new BBA 9800 Pro for $199, it's terrific. But I went from
having a 9600 Pro which I was already very happy with. Had no real
desire to return to an nVidia card.
I just got a new BBA 9800 Pro for $199, it's terrific. But I went from
having a 9600 Pro which I was already very happy with. Had no real
desire to return to an nVidia card.
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texterted
Same price from my retailer.
XFX brand for the 5900xt, unknown for the Ati
but it has the 256 bit memory bus for sure.
What do you guys think?
Cheers
Ted
XFX brand for the 5900xt, unknown for the Ati
but it has the 256 bit memory bus for sure.
What do you guys think?
Cheers
Ted
T
texterted
Hi Steve,
I have an Nvidia Ti4200 128mb... been a good card.
I paid about the same as what these two are going for!
Cheers
Ted
S
Ski
Same price from my retailer.
Just replaced a NEW 9800pro
with a 5900xt.
ATI was a hot running (needed an 80mm case fan blowing on it so I could touch
it) SOB that would run benchmarks only part way thru SOMETIMES...did what I'm
now calling the ATI shuffle, much driver scrubbing, OS reinstalling, all for
naught.
Removed the 9800pro...stuck in the 5900XT...TRYING to cause problems.
Ran 3Dmark2001se...3Dmark2003...aquamark3
NO problems.
Goodbye Ati...
Ski
Just replaced a NEW 9800pro
with a 5900xt.
ATI was a hot running (needed an 80mm case fan blowing on it so I could touch
it) SOB that would run benchmarks only part way thru SOMETIMES...did what I'm
now calling the ATI shuffle, much driver scrubbing, OS reinstalling, all for
naught.
Removed the 9800pro...stuck in the 5900XT...TRYING to cause problems.
Ran 3Dmark2001se...3Dmark2003...aquamark3
NO problems.
Goodbye Ati...
Ski
S
Simon
Steve,
You've posted this in the ATI group so I guess you're gonna get more
answers saying go for the 9800pro. BUT, briefly, here's my 2c.
*The GeFX5900 actually renders a PCI slot unsuable due to its massive
heatsink - which sucks if you're low on space. It's big, it's heavy,
it's power hungry and it's noisey. In comparison, the 9800Pro is
almost silent and takes up one slot (and I know cos I have one).
*The 9800pro just seems to slightly outperform the GeFX5900. Not
always, but I'd say it's 80-20 in ATI's favour. The difference,
though, is probably barely noticeable - but it's nice to know you've
got the faster card!
*Ever since the benchmark 'cheating' scandal a year ago (in which both
nVidia and ATI were involved, but nVidia looked a lot worse), I've
lost a bit of respect for nVidia. The Radeon cards seem to achieve
their speed due to smart decisions made by ATI (e.g. 256bit memory bus
- originally nVidia's 5800's memory bus was only 128 bit wide, and it
was a shocking card. I reckon they included this in their revamped
5900 to 'keep up' with ATI). I just think nVidia try to keep up with
ATI's 'smarts' by just pumping their card more MHz and more power.
And sure that may work most of the time, but there are tradeoffs (the
worst of which is noisey cooling).
And that was my thinking as to why I went ATI.
Cheers,
Simon
You've posted this in the ATI group so I guess you're gonna get more
answers saying go for the 9800pro. BUT, briefly, here's my 2c.
*The GeFX5900 actually renders a PCI slot unsuable due to its massive
heatsink - which sucks if you're low on space. It's big, it's heavy,
it's power hungry and it's noisey. In comparison, the 9800Pro is
almost silent and takes up one slot (and I know cos I have one).
*The 9800pro just seems to slightly outperform the GeFX5900. Not
always, but I'd say it's 80-20 in ATI's favour. The difference,
though, is probably barely noticeable - but it's nice to know you've
got the faster card!
*Ever since the benchmark 'cheating' scandal a year ago (in which both
nVidia and ATI were involved, but nVidia looked a lot worse), I've
lost a bit of respect for nVidia. The Radeon cards seem to achieve
their speed due to smart decisions made by ATI (e.g. 256bit memory bus
- originally nVidia's 5800's memory bus was only 128 bit wide, and it
was a shocking card. I reckon they included this in their revamped
5900 to 'keep up' with ATI). I just think nVidia try to keep up with
ATI's 'smarts' by just pumping their card more MHz and more power.
And sure that may work most of the time, but there are tradeoffs (the
worst of which is noisey cooling).
And that was my thinking as to why I went ATI.
Cheers,
Simon
T
texterted
texterted said:
Thanks for the response guys...
Went for the Ati in the end... no choice really
that's all they had left!
An HiS Excalibur IceQ, looks like a beast of a card.
Can't tell how good it is 'cos it won't let my Abit KX7-333R
boot...
Don't know what to do now... card's ok I've tested it
in a different machine. I've searched and found others with
similar issues with via chipsets. The hotplug of the card's power
cord trick doesn't work. Mine fails to post at all with it in.
Might look for another mboard.... nforce2???
Cheers
Ted
D
Darthy
Thanks for the response guys...
Went for the Ati in the end... no choice really
that's all they had left!
An HiS Excalibur IceQ, looks like a beast of a card.
Can't tell how good it is 'cos it won't let my Abit KX7-333R
boot...
Don't know what to do now... card's ok I've tested it
in a different machine. I've searched and found others with
similar issues with via chipsets. The hotplug of the card's power
cord trick doesn't work. Mine fails to post at all with it in.
Might look for another mboard.... nforce2???
Cheers
Ted
Just a bit for ya... my 9800Pro (256bit/128mb) is easily more powerful
than my 5900 (plain 128mb)... which is a hair faster than the XT.
I dont have any heat problems with either card.
If youre buying new.... look at an Nforce3 board, more upgradability.
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