9800pro 128mb and linux redhat

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I am running this under vmware just to complicate matters...my envirnment is
gnome, i think..all i can use is the vesa driver...what can i use that works
better....i downloaded the latest frebsd from ati but it crashes x
server...i am a complete linux noob so please use small words :-)

i took me a while to figure out that a .pl was an exe file....

Help
Steve
 
Which linux distro are you using - RedHat, Slackware, Debian, Huh??

Gnome is just an application set - has no significance in your post.

Whether or not a file is executable in UNIX/Linux has nothing to do with the
file's extension. There is nothing inherently executable about the extension
..pl. What DOES determine whether a file is executable or not is a
combination of the file's "executable" attribute in the file system and
whether or not the file is a shell script and or conforms to the Linux
Binary executable specification (ELF).

Basically, you could have a file called "blahblah.cheesecakes". as long as
the file has an executable attribute on it (chmod +x) it will work like a
windows .exe.

You can download the appropriate 9800 Linux driver per X server version from
here

http://www.ati.com/support/drivers/...od=productsLINUXdriver&submit.x=15&submit.y=4

After that.............. ah, just fool around with it. You'll get it
eventually.
 
Tony said:
Which linux distro are you using - RedHat, Slackware, Debian, Huh??

Gnome is just an application set - has no significance in your post.

Whether or not a file is executable in UNIX/Linux has nothing to do with the
file's extension. There is nothing inherently executable about the extension
.pl. What DOES determine whether a file is executable or not is a
combination of the file's "executable" attribute in the file system and
whether or not the file is a shell script and or conforms to the Linux
Binary executable specification (ELF).

Basically, you could have a file called "blahblah.cheesecakes". as long as
the file has an executable attribute on it (chmod +x) it will work like a
windows .exe.

You can download the appropriate 9800 Linux driver per X server version from
here

http://www.ati.com/support/drivers/...od=productsLINUXdriver&submit.x=15&submit.y=4

After that.............. ah, just fool around with it. You'll get it
eventually.
Didn't the original poster state that he was running linux in a VMWare
session? If so downloading and installing the ATI linux driver won't do
any good as the virtual video card that VMWare provides is a basic VESA
compatible card, hence why he can only get VESA driver working.

If he wants to utilise the full native capabilities of his card the best
thing to do would be to create some space on the hard drive for a new
dedicated partition or alternatively, buy another decent sized hard
drive (an 80GB drive these days is only £60) and install linux directly
onto the available partition/drive.

This will then allow linux to recognise all of the available physical
hardware in the machine including the 9800pro. Now if you download the
Linux driver from ATI's website and fool around with it, you'll
eventually get it working with full hardware support.

The Alternative is to use a VMWare supported version of Linux, i.e.
Redhat, Mandrake, Suse etc and follow the instructions for installing
linux (usually involves using the text only installer, not the graphical
installer) and once linux is installed, then installing the VMWare Tools
package which installs the VMWare X Server and mouse/keyboard support.

Note regarding VMWare: VMware provides you with a virtual machine
environment that you can use to run any kind of X86 compatible OS. What
it *does not* do is provide each native virtual machine with an exact
copy of your hardware. In other words each VM *does not* have it's own
9800pro to play with.

VMWare uses known hardware emulation for various devices which may exist
on your phsyical machine. For example your physical machine may have a
3Com Gigabit Ethernet NIC but each of your Virtual Machines uses an AMD
PCNET Family PCI NIC. In the same way your physical PC has an ATI 9800
Pro in it each of your virtual machines have a VMWare SVGA II video
adaptor (in my VMWare V4.5 it's a VMWare SVGA II anyway).
 
Hmmm... My bad. I didn't realize VMWare had anything to do with anything in
this situation. That's because I've never used it and as such was unaware
that it emulates hardware (guess the Virtual Machine should have gave that
away though). As it stands I can boot 5 different OS's right now using
either NTLDR or LILO, having each OS lie on its own partition. With good
partitioning tools like Partition Magic it's so easy to throw new OS's all
over the place without ever losing a bit of important data that I've never
even thought about downloading VMWare. Throw some nasty VMWare emulation in
the mix and I'm sure to stick with multi-booting indefinitely. I guess the
driving point of VMWare is the ability to run multiple OS's simultaneously
in different Virtual Machines that lie in physical RAM... but the notion
makes my stomach turn. It's just not a clean way to do things... I'm done
rambling.

In light of this VMWare crap, what he should do is what you stated below -
fire up Linux on it's own separate partition and then install the ATI Linux
driver per ATI provided instructions.
 
thanks all....i am somewhat of a windows expert....i am a network engineer
by trade....it is really wierd to be in front of a computer and have NO
FRIGGIN IDEA how to do anything...i am on a linux mission...maybe i will be
a convert...time will tell..thanks again
Steve

Tony DiMarzio said:
Hmmm... My bad. I didn't realize VMWare had anything to do with anything in
this situation. That's because I've never used it and as such was unaware
that it emulates hardware (guess the Virtual Machine should have gave that
away though). As it stands I can boot 5 different OS's right now using
either NTLDR or LILO, having each OS lie on its own partition. With good
partitioning tools like Partition Magic it's so easy to throw new OS's all
over the place without ever losing a bit of important data that I've never
even thought about downloading VMWare. Throw some nasty VMWare emulation in
the mix and I'm sure to stick with multi-booting indefinitely. I guess the
driving point of VMWare is the ability to run multiple OS's simultaneously
in different Virtual Machines that lie in physical RAM... but the notion
makes my stomach turn. It's just not a clean way to do things... I'm done
rambling.

In light of this VMWare crap, what he should do is what you stated below -
fire up Linux on it's own separate partition and then install the ATI Linux
driver per ATI provided instructions.

--
Tony DiMarzio
(e-mail address removed)
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http://www.ati.com/support/drivers/...od=productsLINUXdriver&submit.x=15&submit.y=4
 
No problem. Good luck to ya with Linux.

For what it's worth - My basic Linux versus Windows philosophy is Linux is
great for many things and falls short in certain areas. It is in those areas
that MS picks up the tab; Windows is great for many things and falls short
in certain areas. It is in THOSE areas that Linux picks up the tab.

Good to know both. I've used Linux extensively over the past few years and
have not been "converted" so to speak. I believe the OS's compliment each
other.

Simple rule though ------------ Linux sucks for gaming. Wanna play the
latest and greatest games, then stick with Win32.

--
Tony DiMarzio
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Steve D said:
thanks all....i am somewhat of a windows expert....i am a network engineer
by trade....it is really wierd to be in front of a computer and have NO
FRIGGIN IDEA how to do anything...i am on a linux mission...maybe i will be
a convert...time will tell..thanks again
Steve

Tony DiMarzio said:
Hmmm... My bad. I didn't realize VMWare had anything to do with anything in
this situation. That's because I've never used it and as such was unaware
that it emulates hardware (guess the Virtual Machine should have gave that
away though). As it stands I can boot 5 different OS's right now using
either NTLDR or LILO, having each OS lie on its own partition. With good
partitioning tools like Partition Magic it's so easy to throw new OS's all
over the place without ever losing a bit of important data that I've never
even thought about downloading VMWare. Throw some nasty VMWare emulation in
the mix and I'm sure to stick with multi-booting indefinitely. I guess the
driving point of VMWare is the ability to run multiple OS's simultaneously
in different Virtual Machines that lie in physical RAM... but the notion
makes my stomach turn. It's just not a clean way to do things... I'm done
rambling.

In light of this VMWare crap, what he should do is what you stated below -
fire up Linux on it's own separate partition and then install the ATI Linux
driver per ATI provided instructions.

--
Tony DiMarzio
(e-mail address removed)
(e-mail address removed)


with long like version
http://www.ati.com/support/drivers/...od=productsLINUXdriver&submit.x=15&submit.y=4
 
Steve said:
thanks all....i am somewhat of a windows expert....i am a network engineer
by trade....it is really wierd to be in front of a computer and have NO
FRIGGIN IDEA how to do anything...i am on a linux mission...maybe i will
be a convert...time will tell..thanks again
Steve

I'm curious as to what it is about using the Intel virtual machine the way
it was designed to be used is "not a clean way to do things".
In light of this VMWare crap, what he should do is what you stated below
- fire up Linux on it's own separate partition and then install the ATI Linux
driver per ATI provided instructions.

--
Tony DiMarzio
(e-mail address removed)
(e-mail address removed)


with long like version
http://www.ati.com/support/drivers/...od=productsLINUXdriver&submit.x=15&submit.y=4
 
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