9700 pro 4.11 drivers stuck at 60 hz again

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Christian

Seems like every time I upgrade my 9700 pro (aiw) refresh rate is stuck
at 60 hz. I can start cotrol center and go into displays manager where I
can choose refresh rate. Doesn't matter what I set i to though. 60 hz is
what is delivered to the screen...

Anyone know a solution.

//Christian
 
Christian said:
Seems like every time I upgrade my 9700 pro (aiw) refresh rate is stuck at
60 hz. I can start cotrol center and go into displays manager where I can
choose refresh rate. Doesn't matter what I set i to though. 60 hz is what
is delivered to the screen...

Anyone know a solution.

//Christian
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go to Displays > Monitor and input the highest resolution and refresh rate
the monitor will support.
 
Seems like every time I upgrade my 9700 pro (aiw) refresh rate is
stuck at 60 hz. I can start cotrol center and go into displays manager
where I can choose refresh rate. Doesn't matter what I set i to
though. 60 hz is what is delivered to the screen...

Anyone know a solution.

//Christian
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You mean the refresh rate override doesn't work or you don't know where
it is?
 
Maybe it's time someone developed a FAQ, if only to prevent this kind of
ambiguity...

- refresh rate override
- AGP aperture size
- AGP8x?
- are xxxx 3DMarks good enough?
 
You mean the refresh rate override doesn't work or you don't know where
it is?
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I have a compaq p1100 monitor. I've set the refresh rate to 100 hz in
control panel - display properties - advanced - monitor.

In the control center i can choose displays manager (I have an AIW card
so there are two displays but nr 2 is not active). Displays manager says
that I'm running on a

*default monitor [Single]
*Desktop area 1280x1024
*Color quality High (32-bit)
*Refresh rate 100 Hz
*rotation is standard

There is a force...-button here but it only has refresh options from 43-60Hz

Is there something more I must do?

//Christian
 
You mean the refresh rate override doesn't work or you don't know
where it is?
Click to expand...

I have a compaq p1100 monitor. I've set the refresh rate to 100 hz in
control panel - display properties - advanced - monitor.

In the control center i can choose displays manager (I have an AIW
card so there are two displays but nr 2 is not active). Displays
manager says that I'm running on a

*default monitor [Single]
*Desktop area 1280x1024
*Color quality High (32-bit)
*Refresh rate 100 Hz
*rotation is standard

There is a force...-button here but it only has refresh options from
43-60Hz

Is there something more I must do?

//Christian
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Using the last CCC with the 4.10 drivers you have to right click on the
large monitor icon in Displays Manager and click properties. That gets
you to where you can set the refresh rate override.
The latest CCC/4.11 (released yesterday) drivers has it a little more
accessible. Under display options there's an option labeled "3D Refresh
Rate Override".
You should also get the inf file for your monitor if you don't have it,
if it shows up as Plug-n-Play Monitor go here and grab the "driver" for
it: http://www.monitor-drivers.com/drivers/20/20795.htm
I'm still not certain if you're ignorant of what I'm talking about (no
offense intended) or if you have some other problem.

Those are the above things to try, the only thing about using the built
in ATI override is the max you can set it to is the same as your desktop
refresh. So if you're desktop is at 1280x1024@100Hz then every other
res has to be 100 Hz even if it can go higher. I ended up forcing all
my refreshes on my old CRT to 85Hz, you can try searching for some third
party tools (google: refresh force ATI) that can enable the highest
refresh rates at every resolution.
One of the nice things about using a digital flat panel display is it's
designed to work optimally at 60 Hz, I don't have to worry about this
stuff any more.
 
Ati drivers will sometimes rely on the monitor information to reset
themselves as clearly stated in the control center manual. The default
monitor drivers won't contain this info that is needed. Below is the link
to your monitor drivers. Also, if you might want to update your motherboard
chipset drivers for Intel or AMD, etc.

http://www.ati.com/support/manualpdf/index.html (you will need adobe pdf
reader)

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsuppor...kId=110&prodSeriesId=221019&prodTypeId=382087

http://h18000.www1.hp.com/support/files/commercialmonitors/us/family/model/5985.html

http://www.ati.com/support/faq/agpchipsetdrivers.html


Christian said:
You mean the refresh rate override doesn't work or you don't know where
it is?
Click to expand...

I have a compaq p1100 monitor. I've set the refresh rate to 100 hz in
control panel - display properties - advanced - monitor.

In the control center i can choose displays manager (I have an AIW card
so there are two displays but nr 2 is not active). Displays manager says
that I'm running on a

*default monitor [Single]
*Desktop area 1280x1024
*Color quality High (32-bit)
*Refresh rate 100 Hz
*rotation is standard

There is a force...-button here but it only has refresh options from 43-60Hz

Is there something more I must do?

//Christian
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I also meant to say if you override the refresh rates on your monitor to one
that it will not support you have a good chance of ruining your monitor.

Excerpt from ATI interview:

In XP and 2K, we don't have access to monitor INF information in our driver
component that manages display capability. We have never used this monitor
information for any purpose. We rely on EDID data or user override
information to determine monitor capability. Even though the OS may use the
monitor information to expose high refresh rate based on monitor INF
content, the driver always restricts the actual refresh rate going to the
monitor based on EDID or the user override. In essence, the user may be able
to select from OS controlled monitor page (in advanced property pages) a
high refresh rate but internally driver will restrict the refresh rate going
to the monitor based on EDID information or user override information. If
user set the override information incorrectly then incompatible signals
would be sent to the monitor.

In 9x, we can access monitor INF information but due to issues with how OS
maps the INF to a monitor, we had disabled reading the monitor INF via
registry. Unless someone deliberately changes the registry setting for this
in 9x, they would not run into any monitor INF related issues.

They do rely on the EDID information which is contained in the registry.
The operating system does rely on the .inf file to relay the correct
information about the monitors display properties and the default monitor
may not, as stated before, have this. We had this problem with a 21" NEC
and the ATI 9700 Pro. As soon as we installed the monitor drivers
downloaded from NEC, we no longer had a refresh issue. The monitor install,
not just an .inf put in the windows directory, but an actual install put the
info in our registry. The same with our ViewSonic monitor.

http://www.ati.com/support/infobase/3653.html

Your DDC or Display Identification Standard is being incorrectly read.
 
I have a compaq p1100 monitor. I've set the refresh rate to 100 hz in
control panel - display properties - advanced - monitor.

In the control center i can choose displays manager (I have an AIW card
so there are two displays but nr 2 is not active). Displays manager says
that I'm running on a

*default monitor [Single]
*Desktop area 1280x1024
*Color quality High (32-bit)
*Refresh rate 100 Hz
*rotation is standard

There is a force...-button here but it only has refresh options from 43-60Hz

Is there something more I must do?

//Christian
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I suspect its the max refresh that is stuck. Go to...

control panel - display properties - advanced - displays

click on your monitor, and make sure the max refresh is set to something
sensible. If you don't have the displays tab then you may need to uninstall
that control centre rubbish and install the 4.11 control panels.
http://www2.ati.com/drivers/control-panel-8-071-041026a-018719c.exe

HTH
 
Thank you!!! Holy crap, you're right that control center is rubbish,
it wasn't getting any DDC/EDID/whatever it's called from my monitor,
but the place where you could manually override the refresh rate was
also greyed out. So, I was stuck in 60Hz, cursing ATI, and ready to go
back to nVidia just out of spite (well, spite, and not wanting to have
to stare at a flickering monitor). So, I installed the "normal"
drivers, and sure enough, I was able to override the refresh rate
there...
 
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