9500pro...enable AA and AF???

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Hello all,

I have the above card with Omega driver 2.46. I do not have it overclocked
either. On this machine, should I have it enabled for AA and AF?

AMD Tbird 2000+
Abit KD7A
768meg pc2100
WinXP Pro
DirectX 9.0b

The games I play the most is Wolfenstein Enemy Terrirory, and a lot of
Command and Conquer Generals.

I currently have the settings in Application Preference settings with most
other settings at default. I only have Fast Writes turned off. Ive at least
come across several threads saying its usually best to leave off.

Any thoughts?

thanks all,
SL
 
SL said:
Hello all,

I have the above card with Omega driver 2.46. I do not have it overclocked
either. On this machine, should I have it enabled for AA and AF?

AMD Tbird 2000+
Abit KD7A
768meg pc2100
WinXP Pro
DirectX 9.0b

The games I play the most is Wolfenstein Enemy Terrirory, and a lot of
Command and Conquer Generals.
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Except for the motherboard, I have the exact same system that you have. I
run 90% of my games at either 1280x1024 or 1280x960 with vsync on, AA at 2x
and AF at 8x and I get noticeably smooth framerates. One exception I've
found is Generals... I usually turn off AA/AF filtering, as the game seems a
bit jerky with it turned on.

Terence
 
SL said:
Hello all,

I have the above card with Omega driver 2.46. I do not have it overclocked
either. On this machine, should I have it enabled for AA and AF?

AMD Tbird 2000+
Abit KD7A
768meg pc2100
WinXP Pro
DirectX 9.0b

The games I play the most is Wolfenstein Enemy Terrirory, and a lot of
Command and Conquer Generals.

I currently have the settings in Application Preference settings with most
other settings at default. I only have Fast Writes turned off. Ive at least
come across several threads saying its usually best to leave off.

Any thoughts?

thanks all,
SL
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You only have to switch fastwrites of if it makes your system
unstable... normally you can leave it on.

I have an ati 9500 Pro and I have both in OpenGL as Direct3D settings,
aniso set to 16x

After all, I want eye-candy...and hate to see in the distance and see
uglyness!

And the performance tax of 16x aniso is about nothing on ati cards, so
do set it on and see how much better the graphics are...on average :-)
 
My games seem to almost never hickup. I attribute some of that to Omega's
drivers. But on the rare situation where it has ever happened is in
generals when on a lan game with multiple AI opponents. But you could
easily chalk that up to the game and not the card. In wolfenstein, the only
time where I may of have fallen below 30-40 fps is when tons of those
airstrikes are going off. That has to be an extreme amount and I do have
all the game settings to high levels.

This card is sweet, It performs much better than the Radeon VE 32 megger it
replaced. Not that that card wholly sucked, it was a nice reliable card.

I guess I could try bumping up the AA and AF and try comparisons. I will do
so over this holiday weekend. I will post here to you guys/gals.

Thanks Avenger,
SL
 
You only have to switch fastwrites of if it makes your system
unstable... normally you can leave it on.

I have an ati 9500 Pro and I have both in OpenGL as Direct3D settings,
aniso set to 16x

After all, I want eye-candy...and hate to see in the distance and see
uglyness!

And the performance tax of 16x aniso is about nothing on ati cards, so
do set it on and see how much better the graphics are...on average :-)
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Yes, I do agree that the graphics are great with aniso and AA turned
on. However, just to see what the performance is, I ran 3DMark 03 on
my 9600 PRO and it gave me 2845 marks (I have a 1.6 gig P4).
Then I turned up AA to 6x and Aniso to 16x and then ran it. It gave me
1145 marks. And the games were visible slower.

So for now, I think I will have them disabled. Unless you suggest
something else :-)
I am fairly new to all this so its possible I have overlooked
something. And after all, the 9500 Pro does have 8 rendering pipelines
compared to the 9600's 4.


***
....the Phoenix shall rise...
 
Phoenix AG said:
Yes, I do agree that the graphics are great with aniso and AA turned
on. However, just to see what the performance is, I ran 3DMark 03 on
my 9600 PRO and it gave me 2845 marks (I have a 1.6 gig P4).
Then I turned up AA to 6x and Aniso to 16x and then ran it. It gave me
1145 marks. And the games were visible slower.

So for now, I think I will have them disabled. Unless you suggest
something else :-)
I am fairly new to all this so its possible I have overlooked
something. And after all, the 9500 Pro does have 8 rendering pipelines
compared to the 9600's 4.


***
...the Phoenix shall rise...
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Well nobody garantueed that you could do 6x FSAA 16x ANISO with every
game. But generally you can find a nice "sweet" spot in what quality
and performance mix fine.

And the problems can also lie in the games themself.... ya know what I
mean, some are really really heavy, even for nowadays cards!

I personly don't care about 3dmarks, I care about playing games in
acceptable ways. And with this card I can.... and for a few coming
months I guess that will stay the same.

Ofcourse the 9500 Pro is already atleast one year out.... and not the
fastests.... but it's about 1/2 of a 9800XT ( in performance seen )
.....

The 9600 Pro/XT are also great medium budget cards.... and come close
to the performance of the 9500 Pro.

Hell i'm happy with it, sure I can get a faster card... for what... I
currently can play every game in perfect settings....

So I await a few months and maybe, once the real killergames are out,
I might think about upgrading!
 
good post jumping on the "I got the biggest" is most times foolish, I just bought myself a 9600p recently, didn't have to pay the
retail price when it was the new 'flavor of the day' and this card is damn near perfect in every game I play. all the newest
releases COD,halo...and I'm positive I'll enjoy doom for a year or more. Hell, on a p4 1.6 512 ram and a 7500 AIW, plays all those
very well with the 3.10 (beta)cat drivers.
 
JAD said:
good post jumping on the "I got the biggest" is most times foolish, I just bought myself a 9600p recently, didn't have to pay the
retail price when it was the new 'flavor of the day' and this card is damn near perfect in every game I play. all the newest
releases COD,halo...and I'm positive I'll enjoy doom for a year or more. Hell, on a p4 1.6 512 ram and a 7500 AIW, plays all those
very well with the 3.10 (beta)cat drivers.
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Yep, the ati cards have much "spare room" of performance left, so that
even upcoming games will play good, and the games following them...
and the games following them. Oh yes, there comes a time even ati's
current line becomes obsolete..but it will take a long time!
 
Hello again,

I now have the card on full AA and AF. I no longer use application
preference. I tried it with settings at half for both and now am at full on
both. The card had no problems and the Enemy Territory looked great. It
looked fine earlier without, but It just seemed to be much "richer" and it
makes the game seem even smoother to play somehow. It was a good move in my
case. Thanks all for the input.

SL
 
Hello again,

I now have the card on full AA and AF. I no longer use application
preference. I tried it with settings at half for both and now am at full on
both. The card had no problems and the Enemy Territory looked great. It
looked fine earlier without, but It just seemed to be much "richer" and it
makes the game seem even smoother to play somehow. It was a good move in my
case. Thanks all for the input.

SL
 
SL said:
Hello again,

I now have the card on full AA and AF. I no longer use application
preference. I tried it with settings at half for both and now am at full on
both. The card had no problems and the Enemy Territory looked great. It
looked fine earlier without, but It just seemed to be much "richer" and it
makes the game seem even smoother to play somehow. It was a good move in my
case. Thanks all for the input.

SL
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Yep... high framerate is worth nothing if you can "invest" some of the
framerate into much better quality visuals :-)
 
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