9500 pro or 9600 xt?

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The 9500Pro is not DX9 compatible, which newer games require.

What will it take to get you to quit repeating this bullshit? Did you
study debating from Goebbels or something?

What specific features are present in the 9600 that are not present in
the 9500 that make the one DirectX 9 "compatible" but not the other?
 
On 1 Dec 2003 18:18:27 -0800
You know that they are both almost the same speed....

But I suggest the 9500 Pro.. for the reason that in many cases it's a
great overclocker... and.. the 9600XT is already close it it's
maximum!

Are you sure about that? The XTs use a different chip from the earlier
9600s.
 
I am considering these two cards, ati Radeon 9500 pro or ati radeon 9600 xt,
as an upgrade from my 9000 pro. I am looking to improve overall video
performance. I'd like the opinions of people in this group as to which is
the better card. Thanks
 
I am considering these two cards, ati Radeon 9500 pro or ati radeon 9600 xt,
as an upgrade from my 9000 pro. I am looking to improve overall video
performance. I'd like the opinions of people in this group as to which is
the better card. Thanks

Where did you find a 9500 Pro? They're pretty rare. If you found one
for a decent price go for that, but the XT is pretty similar.
 
The 9500 was discontinued because it was a much more expensive card to
fabricate. If you look at archive material on the differences between the
9500 and 9600 you will see that the 9500 pro was in fact the superior card -
at least earlier board revs of it were, because they were actually limited
versions of more upmarket cards.

Unfortunately, the 9500pro is no longer available (especially in the more
overclock/unlock friendly versions).

S
 
You are way off base Dave... get it right before you post... 9500pro does
support 9X. But you will be hard pressed to find a 9500 pro.

Randy
 
codyw said:
I am considering these two cards, ati Radeon 9500 pro or ati radeon 9600 xt,
as an upgrade from my 9000 pro. I am looking to improve overall video
performance. I'd like the opinions of people in this group as to which is
the better card. Thanks

You know that they are both almost the same speed....

But I suggest the 9500 Pro.. for the reason that in many cases it's a
great overclocker... and.. the 9600XT is already close it it's
maximum!
 
Ive got a 9500 pro. It does do DX9 games. I dont have the modable 9500 >
9700 type ram. But its a nice card I think.

SL
 
J.Clarke said:
On 1 Dec 2003 18:18:27 -0800


Are you sure about that? The XTs use a different chip from the earlier
9600s.


--

Yes, it's sligthly newer..... and indeed has dynamic overclocking! BUT
.... it's already clocked pretty high.

So with about the same cooling, the 9500 Pro will overclock much
better AND has the pro of 8 pixelpipelines, 4 vertex pipelines... and
so on!

The 9600 series only get CLOSE to the 9500 Pro performance by having a
much higher GPU/MEMORY rate!
 
On 3 Dec 2003 04:53:46 -0800
Yup, i'm rather sure!

My 9500 Pro has the same performance ( benchmarks and games related )
as an 9600 XT. While my card can easily be overclocked to 9700 Pro
speeds.. I don't have to tell you that such does matters!

But to what speeds can the 9600XT be overclocked? Don't assume it has
the same limitations as the other 9600s which use a different processor
chip.
 
The 9500Pro is not DX9 compatible, which newer games require.


He's just keeps repeating that because at one time he honestly thought
the card didn't support DX9. People corrected him, and
now he does it because he wants people to think he knew it
all along and is only repeating himself to be annoying.

Joe
 
If you've read the millions of one-line (totally ridiculous) replies, from
this guy, you'd let him hang himself.... I wonder if he does it, on purpose
just to start flame wars. Wouldn't be a 'first'

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J.Clarke said:
On 1 Dec 2003 18:18:27 -0800


Are you sure about that? The XTs use a different chip from the earlier
9600s.


--

Yup, i'm rather sure!

My 9500 Pro has the same performance ( benchmarks and games related )
as an 9600 XT. While my card can easily be overclocked to 9700 Pro
speeds.. I don't have to tell you that such does matters!
 
I dunno about that, I'm a top poster and I know that.......

That 9500 Pro was one ****ing sweet card.
 
Well, I have three home systems with a 95pro, 96pro, and a 97pro (the
wife says it'll be part of the upcoming lawsuit). My experience is both
cards, the 95 and the 96 pros are pretty close. On games using lots of T&L
the 95 is somewhat faster particularly at higher res (>10x7). On some games,
particularly Shader stuff, it seems the 96 is a tad quicker, maybe because
of faster internal speed. I also found its easier to overclock my 96 than my
95 with the stock HSF, mostly because it runs cooler (.13u vs .15u).
Remember, not all ATI based cards have the same memory chips and some
overclock better than other so YMMV. Neither card matches my 97pro
performance. My guess is both cars will probably choke a bit on a Doom3
caliber game if played above 8x6.
If you use res > than 10x7 I'd consider the 95pro if price is below the
96XT, otherwise I'd go with the XT.

best-0-luck,
mikey
 
On 4 Dec 2003 12:32:55 -0800
All 9600's use the same chip revision and all are pretty high clocked
to start with!

You have been misinformed. All 9600s other than the XT use the RV350
chip. The XT uses the RV360, which has several improvements including
a new dielectric which allows higher clock speeds.

You might find
<http://www.tech-report.com/reviews/2003q4/radeon-9600xt/index.x?pg=1>
and said:
So you might be able to overclock it but I'm sure you won't get to the
9700 Pro levels in performance, wich is something a 9500 Pro actually
may get to with good cooling!

It's not clear yet what the 9600XT will do with "good cooling".
 
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