939 m/b advice recommends

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im on a budget so im looking to buy a used 939 m/b there's a few about
asus abit msi gigbyte etc what was considered the best of them whe
they
were new, being as ill be buying one used what one would anyon
recommend
for a bit of game playing half life 2 etc
 
The question is will your present Computer Chip fit into a 939 socket??
Or will you need to buy a new chip as well??

how much $$$ are you looking to spend?? what country are you in??

peter
 
fender62 said:
im on a budget so im looking to buy a used 939 m/b there's a few about
asus abit msi gigbyte etc what was considered the best of them when
they
were new, being as ill be buying one used what one would anyone
recommend
for a bit of game playing half life 2 etc.
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Another question to consider, is what kind of video card will
you be using ? Will the video card be AGP or PCI Express ?
That makes a big difference, as to what motherboards you'll
be able to find.

Do you have a list of hardware you're trying to reuse ? Will
you be reusing memory ? Do you have the processor already ?
Give us some idea what you've got, to better frame a reuse
strategy.

Paul
 
I'm using a Gigabyte GAK9-NSC-939 with an Athlon XP 3200 and 3 GB PC3200
RAM.
Added GeForce 6600 AGP graphics. Creative PCI soundcard and a Firewire card.
Very happy with it and won't feel the need to upgrade for a while.
 
Kenny;3368687 said:
I'm using a Gigabyte GAK9-NSC-939 with an Athlon XP 3200 and 3 GB PC320

RAM.
Added GeForce 6600 AGP graphics. Creative PCI soundcard and a Firewir
card.
Very happy with it and won't feel the need to upgrade for a while.

--
Kenny Cargill
"fender62" (e-mail address removed) wrote in message

im on a budget so im looking to buy a used 939 m/b there's a fe
about
asus abit msi gigbyte etc what was considered the best of them when
they
were new, being as ill be buying one used what one would anyone
recommend
for a bit of game playing half life 2 etc.
Click to expand...

sorry for the confusion, i have a 1gb 184 mem card 939 takes 184 chips
so ill use that i have an old geforce mx4000 agp thats a little slow s
ill get a used pci graphics card the best used one i can afford i hav
two sata drives
bought a whild back ill use them, i dont have cpu yet but people ar
selling there 939 m/b with the cpu on fleabay so ill do it that way, i
im buying a uesed m/b with a cpu what the best one for the 939 if i se
a used one.
at the mo im looking at a few used m/b - Abit Fatal1ty AN8 SLi/GigaByt
GA-K8N Ultra-9 /ENDING SOON
ASUS A8V Deluxe/Athlon 64 x2 core 4400+ on MSI 7185/AMD Athlon 64 3000
& MSI K8N Neo2 what one is best
 
fender62 said:
sorry for the confusion, i have a 1gb 184 mem card 939 takes 184 chips
so ill use that i have an old geforce mx4000 agp thats a little slow so
ill get a used pci graphics card the best used one i can afford i have
two sata drives
bought a whild back ill use them, i dont have cpu yet but people are
selling there 939 m/b with the cpu on fleabay so ill do it that way, if
im buying a uesed m/b with a cpu what the best one for the 939 if i see
a used one.
at the mo im looking at a few used m/b - Abit Fatal1ty AN8 SLi/GigaByte
GA-K8N Ultra-9 /ENDING SOON
ASUS A8V Deluxe/Athlon 64 x2 core 4400+ on MSI 7185/AMD Athlon 64 3000+
& MSI K8N Neo2 what one is best ?
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A minor issue with the Abit, would be that the company is out of business.
Sometimes it is hard to get info from their web site, like if you need
drivers or the downloadable PDF user manual.

The GA-K8N Ultra-9 has a PCI Express video card slot. There is no
fan on the chipset to wear out.

http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?cid=6&id=1593

The A8V Deluxe has an AGP 8X video slot. At this point, I don't
see an AGP slot as being a good investment. This would be OK
if you already had a good AGP card, and you had drivers for it
that worked well.

http://www.asus.com/Product.aspx?P_ID=tvpdgPNCPaABZRVU

The MS-7185 would be PCI Express. It has an Nvidia chipset. And
one of those 40mm fans on the chipset.

http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=1&prod_no=203
http://www.msi.com/uploads/prod_4add6fadb1eae4bd4e3307f6c6b61af3.jpg

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The thing is, you can also find new stuff to compete with that.

AMD Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition Callisto 3.1GHz
2x512KB L2, 6MB L3, Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Processor HDZ550WFGIBOX $99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103680

Foxconn A7GM-S 2.0 (with PCI Express video card slot) $65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16813186165

http://www.foxconnchannel.com/product/Motherboards/detail_overview.aspx?ID=en-us0000424

(Always check the CPU support chart, to determine compatibility)
http://www.foxconnsupport.com/cpusupportlist.aspx?type=mb&model=A7GM-S 2.0&cputype=

"AM3 PhenomIIx2 3.1G Callisto 550 512K*2 80W P"

2x1GB (dual channel) memory kit $51
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16820134117

So for $215 you could go with new stuff, and faster at that. And
that motherboard has its own graphics output, so you don't even
need a PCI Express video card to test it when the motherboard arrives.
You still need the PCI Express video card, to get good gaming performance,
but if you don't have the video card on day one, you can still test
your new system.

http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/13-186-165-S02?$S640W$

I'm not mentioning the new stuff because I like new stuff. It
is the fact that you can get more processor for your money,
with a socket more modern than S939. Back in the S939 days, AMD
could charge a hefty price for their high end processors. Now,
they're in the bargain basement on the new stuff. And you can
still find memory to go with it, for a decent price.

Paul
 
Paul;3368755 said:
fender62 wrote:-
Kenny;3368687 Wrote: -
I'm using a Gigabyte GAK9-NSC-939 with an Athlon XP 3200 and 3 G
PC3200

RAM.
Added GeForce 6600 AGP graphics. Creative PCI soundcard and
Firewire
card.
Very happy with it and won't feel the need to upgrade for a while.

--
Kenny Cargill
"fender62" (e-mail address removed) wrote in message

im on a budget so im looking to buy a used 939 m/b there's a few
about
asus abit msi gigbyte etc what was considered the best of them when
they
were new, being as ill be buying one used what one would anyone
recommend
for a bit of game playing half life 2 etc.

--
fender62 --

sorry for the confusion, i have a 1gb 184 mem card 939 takes 18
chips
so ill use that i have an old geforce mx4000 agp thats a little slo
so
ill get a used pci graphics card the best used one i can afford
have
two sata drives
bought a whild back ill use them, i dont have cpu yet but people are
selling there 939 m/b with the cpu on fleabay so ill do it that way
if
im buying a uesed m/b with a cpu what the best one for the 939 if
see
a used one.
at the mo im looking at a few used m/b - Abit Fatal1ty AN
SLi/GigaByte
GA-K8N Ultra-9 /ENDING SOON
ASUS A8V Deluxe/Athlon 64 x2 core 4400+ on MSI 7185/AMD Athlon 6
3000+
& MSI K8N Neo2 what one is best ?
-

A minor issue with the Abit, would be that the company is out o
business.
Sometimes it is hard to get info from their web site, like if you need
drivers or the downloadable PDF user manual.

The GA-K8N Ultra-9 has a PCI Express video card slot. There is no
fan on the chipset to wear out.

http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?cid=6&id=1593

The A8V Deluxe has an AGP 8X video slot. At this point, I don't
see an AGP slot as being a good investment. This would be OK
if you already had a good AGP card, and you had drivers for it
that worked well.

http://www.asus.com/Product.aspx?P_ID=tvpdgPNCPaABZRVU

The MS-7185 would be PCI Express. It has an Nvidia chipset. And
one of those 40mm fans on the chipset.

http://tinyurl.com/yksa2er
http://tinyurl.com/ydf8tlf

********

The thing is, you can also find new stuff to compete with that.

AMD Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition Callisto 3.1GHz
2x512KB L2, 6MB L3, Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Processor HDZ550WFGIBOX
$99

http://tinyurl.com/pe3aow

Foxconn A7GM-S 2.0 (with PCI Express video card slot) $65
http://tinyurl.com/yeazjqe

http://tinyurl.com/ykopbun

(Always check the CPU support chart, to determine compatibility)
http://tinyurl.com/yeonesu

"AM3 PhenomIIx2 3.1G Callisto 550 512K*2 80W P"

2x1GB (dual channel) memory kit $51
http://tinyurl.com/y9csqus

So for $215 you could go with new stuff, and faster at that. And
that motherboard has its own graphics output, so you don't even
need a PCI Express video card to test it when the motherboard arrives.
You still need the PCI Express video card, to get good gamin
performance,
but if you don't have the video card on day one, you can still test
your new system.

http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/13-186-165-S02?$S640W$

I'm not mentioning the new stuff because I like new stuff. It
is the fact that you can get more processor for your money,
with a socket more modern than S939. Back in the S939 days, AMD
could charge a hefty price for their high end processors. Now,
they're in the bargain basement on the new stuff. And you can
still find memory to go with it, for a decent price.

Paul
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thanks for advice ill ditch agp slot m/b's perhaps ill just sell off m
old stuff
see what i can get, and just go for new becuase im on a budget can yo
recommend the cheapest but fast setup i could buy if its possible i
can be don
 
fender62 said:
thanks for advice ill ditch agp slot m/b's perhaps ill just sell off my
old stuff
see what i can get, and just go for new becuase im on a budget can you
recommend the cheapest but fast setup i could buy if its possible it
can be done
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The motherboard I picked out, was $65. How much cheaper do you want to go ?
If you go too cheap, you'll waste money on shipping back the dead ones.

You can use the Newegg site for refining your selection. By using the
customer reviews, you can avoid the really bad stuff. (The customers
will report whether the board they got was DOA, or whether it was
unstable and so on.) Then, if you can get a better price elsewhere
(which is possible), you can pick the cheapest that way.

In terms of picking fast processors, you have clock speed and number of
cores as factors. Number of cores only pays off, if a game were to use
all the cores. An example of a game that tries hard, is Microsoft
Flight Simulator FSX. But other games might be just as happy on a
dual core processor (the game I like to play, mainly runs on one core
and only gets a bit of benefit from a second core). I picked the $99 processor,
as the best compromise between cheap and powerful. In the list here,
you can see other processors with faster clock rates than the 550.
The Phenom II X4 965 (quad core) is $195.

http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUResult.aspx

HDX550WFK2DGM AMD Phenom II X2 550 3100 80 W <--- Fast dual
HDZ550WFK2DGI AMD Phenom II X2 550 3100 80 W
ADV6000IAA5DO AMD Athlon X2 6000+ 3100 89 W
HDX955FBK4DGM AMD Phenom II X4 955 3200 125 W
HDZ955FBK4DGI AMD Phenom II X4 955 3200 125 W
N/A AMD Athlon X2 6400+ 3200 125 W <--- Fast hot dual
HDZ965FBK4DGM AMD Phenom II X4 965 3400 125 W
HDZ965FBK4DGI AMD Phenom II X4 965 3400 140 W

The thing is, once you go over 89 watts, you have to be more careful in
the motherboard selection. By staying below 89W, more motherboards are
candidates. There are some motherboards which handle 140W processors,
but the Vcore regulator has to have an extra phase or two, or a beefier
set of coils, to handle that. By me picking an 80W processor, I'm
trying to avoid potential Vcore issues. You can usually detect a weak
Vcore, by looking at the CPU support chart for the motherboard - if
there are no 140W processors listed as being compatible, then you know
the Vcore isn't super-strong. *Always* check the CPU compatiblity
chart on the motherboard manufacturer site, before you buy.

I was trying to beat the performance of an S939 system, without
breaking the bank. If you want to spend the $195 on a processor,
then verify that $65 motherboard can handle it.

Paul
 
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