9000 ED ordered

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Alan Browne

Finally ordered the 9000ED.

Canadian prices finally entered a "sensible" zone, so a little more than
the US B&H price, but less than the Nikon CDN list price...

I look forward to it as I have nearly 20 rolls of pristine 120 Velvia
and 100G to scan and more to come...

So? VueScan or Nikon software?

Cheers,
Alan
 
Alan Browne said:
I look forward to it as I have nearly 20 rolls of pristine 120 Velvia and
100G to scan and more to come...

So? VueScan or Nikon software?
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I found the Nikon software fine _for slide films_. I couldn't persuade it to
scan negative films without clipping some of the range. The newer versions
of the Nikon software are said to be better for negative materials, but be
prepared to need Vuescan. There are heroic measures you can take to scan
negatives as positives and invert _in NikonScan_. They've been described
here before.

The 8000/9000 do a thumbnail scan of the two to four frames in the holder,
but Vuescan doesn't support that, so you have to specify the areas to scan
manually. Sort of a pain.

I claim that it's worthwhile to be increadibly picayune about getting your
film perfectly flat across the whole frame with the 8000/9000. Rafe thinks
I'm nuts. Your mileage will vary.

David J. Littleboy
Tokyo, Japan
 
I found the Nikon software fine _for slide films_. I couldn't persuade it to
scan negative films without clipping some of the range. The newer versions
of the Nikon software are said to be better for negative materials, but be
prepared to need Vuescan. There are heroic measures you can take to scan
negatives as positives and invert _in NikonScan_. They've been described
here before.
Click to expand...


No need to exaggerate, David. Hardly "heroic"
or else I'm a hero. Adds about 15 seconds to
the scan setup.

In any case, I'm told these measures aren't
needed on the 9000.


rafe b
www.terrapinphoto.com
 
No need to exaggerate, David. Hardly "heroic"
or else I'm a hero. Adds about 15 seconds to
the scan setup.
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I invert in Photoshop, which doesn't take any time. I need levels for
color balance and contrast anyhow.

I also use the analog gain in NikonScan to remove the orange mask.

The main problem I have (with the LS-4000) is that NikonScan doesn't
recognize the frame boundaries when I scan negatives as slides.
 
David said:
I found the Nikon software fine _for slide films_. I couldn't persuade it to
scan negative films without clipping some of the range. The newer versions
Click to expand...

90% of the use will be slide. I'm prepared to use VueScan for negatives
if required.
of the Nikon software are said to be better for negative materials, but be
prepared to need Vuescan. There are heroic measures you can take to scan
negatives as positives and invert _in NikonScan_. They've been described
here before.
Click to expand...

Heroic is the word. Or pain-in-the-ass, in any case.

The 8000/9000 do a thumbnail scan of the two to four frames in the holder,
but Vuescan doesn't support that, so you have to specify the areas to scan
manually. Sort of a pain.
Click to expand...

IIRC (I haven't used VueScan in a long time) you could save scan "areas"
for future use. (Confused maybe).
I claim that it's worthwhile to be increadibly picayune about getting your
film perfectly flat across the whole frame with the 8000/9000. Rafe thinks
I'm nuts. Your mileage will vary.
Click to expand...

That is a concern for me. I want to get the glass film holder as well.
It seems to be out-of-stock everywhere.

Cheers,
Alan
 
Alan said:
Finally ordered the 9000ED.

So? VueScan or Nikon software?
Click to expand...

I upgraded to the 9000ED from a Canon FS4000. Vuescan was a lot better
than the Canon software. Being already familiar with Vuescan, I was
happy to keep using it on the 9000, and I get somewhat better results
with it than with the Nikon software. Not spectacularly better, though.

Vuescan took a bit of learning but now I am familiar with it I
appreciate the greater control it gives me.
 
This seems like an appropriate place to ask (again).
Has anyone heard anything about whether Nikon will continue to develop
this series of scanners or are the 5000ED and 9000ED the end of the
line?

Thanks
 
This seems like an appropriate place to ask (again).
Has anyone heard anything about whether Nikon will continue to develop
this series of scanners or are the 5000ED and 9000ED the end of the
line?
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I wish I could answer but I'm locked up in this
tower and some (*%& hobbit just made off with
my crystal ball.


rafe b
www.terrapinphoto.com
 
W said:
This seems like an appropriate place to ask (again).
Has anyone heard anything about whether Nikon will continue to develop
this series of scanners or are the 5000ED and 9000ED the end of the
line?
Click to expand...


I suspect it will be a long time before they upgrade.

Film use is down

Those who shoot film (or who shot film) already have good scanners.

Cheers,
Alan
 
Alan said:
I suspect it will be a long time before they upgrade.

Film use is down

Those who shoot film (or who shot film) already have good scanners.
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Some of us are still waiting, it is looking like we might be waiting a
long time.

My Minolta Dual III is not bad but I sure would like ICE and it would
be nice to be able to scan MF as well.

For now I am going to keep waiting but I am begining to think it is
about as good as it is going to get.

Scott
 
Scott said:
Some of us are still waiting, it is looking like we might be waiting a
long time.

My Minolta Dual III is not bad but I sure would like ICE and it would
be nice to be able to scan MF as well.

For now I am going to keep waiting but I am begining to think it is
about as good as it is going to get.
Click to expand...

ICE is a wonderful thing when you have a rush (dust) or old negs/slides
(scratches) that pop up.
http://www.aliasimages.com/scanscratch.htm roll over the image

My 5400 is for sale Scott... make me an offer (35mm only, however).

Nikon 9000 is here. What a beast. And Nikon scan sucks!

It also appears that I'll need the glass film holder for 120 format. I
might go straight to the "wet" system instead however. (Cachet).

Cheers,
Alan
 
Nikon 9000 is here. What a beast. And Nikon scan sucks!
Click to expand...

IMO, NikonScan gets a bad rap. It works fine for me.
I never really did get the hang of Vuescan.
It also appears that I'll need the glass film holder for 120 format. I
might go straight to the "wet" system instead however. (Cachet).
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I made do with the glassless holder for years.
In hindsight, I should have bought the glass
holder right away. I'm not sure about working
with Kami though. I don't like what it does to
the film. And it's toxic and flammable as hell.


rafe b
www.terrapinphoto.com
 
Raphael said:
IMO, NikonScan gets a bad rap. It works fine for me.
I never really did get the hang of Vuescan.





I made do with the glassless holder for years.
In hindsight, I should have bought the glass
holder right away. I'm not sure about working
with Kami though. I don't like what it does to
the film. And it's toxic and flammable as hell.
Click to expand...

The Cachet film holder (modified Nikon) is $499 + $149 for the starter
kit. But it is claimed to do nothing to the film.

So I'll probably just go on the wait list for the Nikon glass film holder...
 
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