G
Grumble
This chart on AMD's web site made me curious:
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_9485_9487^10248,00.html
Process Technology 90 or 130 nm, SOI technology
Packaging 754-pin or 939-pin organic micro PGA
Die Size 144 to 193 mm^2
Number of Transistors 68.5 to 105.9 million
(depending on cache size)
Clawhammer
1 MB L2 cache
105.9 million transistors
193 mm^2 @ 130 nm
OK, so the "193 mm^2" and "105.9 Mtransistors" are accounted for.
**Time for some guesstimates**
512 KB SRAM =~ 25-30 Mtransistors.
Thus, the Newcastle core =~ 76-81 Mtransistors.
Assume a slighty worse transistor density than Clawhammer, because
we removed dense areas... say 0.54 Mtransistors/mm^2.
Die size =~ 141-150 Mtransistors. This is probably where the chart's
"144 mm^2" comes from.
<guess>
Newcastle
512 KB L2 cache
78 million transistors
144 mm^2 @ 130 nm
</guess>
I still have several questions.
What's the die size for Winchester (Newcastle's 90 nm cousin)?
endian.net reports 83 mm^2.
Which core has only 68.5 Mtransitors? 37.4 Mtransitors seems a lot
for 512 KB L2 cache, no?
Is Winchester just a die shrink of Newcastle? I heard AMD might
implement SSE3 and minor micro-optimizations (LEA).
I seem to recall AMD once said 100 mm^2 was their sweet spot. If
they can manufacture enough Winchester cores, we might see sub-$100
Athlons again, or am I crazy here?
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_9485_9487^10248,00.html
Process Technology 90 or 130 nm, SOI technology
Packaging 754-pin or 939-pin organic micro PGA
Die Size 144 to 193 mm^2
Number of Transistors 68.5 to 105.9 million
(depending on cache size)
Clawhammer
1 MB L2 cache
105.9 million transistors
193 mm^2 @ 130 nm
OK, so the "193 mm^2" and "105.9 Mtransistors" are accounted for.
**Time for some guesstimates**
512 KB SRAM =~ 25-30 Mtransistors.
Thus, the Newcastle core =~ 76-81 Mtransistors.
Assume a slighty worse transistor density than Clawhammer, because
we removed dense areas... say 0.54 Mtransistors/mm^2.
Die size =~ 141-150 Mtransistors. This is probably where the chart's
"144 mm^2" comes from.
<guess>
Newcastle
512 KB L2 cache
78 million transistors
144 mm^2 @ 130 nm
</guess>
I still have several questions.
What's the die size for Winchester (Newcastle's 90 nm cousin)?
endian.net reports 83 mm^2.
Which core has only 68.5 Mtransitors? 37.4 Mtransitors seems a lot
for 512 KB L2 cache, no?
Is Winchester just a die shrink of Newcastle? I heard AMD might
implement SSE3 and minor micro-optimizations (LEA).
I seem to recall AMD once said 100 mm^2 was their sweet spot. If
they can manufacture enough Winchester cores, we might see sub-$100
Athlons again, or am I crazy here?