8ms 19in LCD

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Has anyone here tried one for gaming yet? Has anyone hooked one up to an ATI
AIW 9800 Pro? So far there's the Hyundai L90D+, though there may be others
with sub-16ms response times.

It's about time I replaced my ageing Dell 19in CRT, but I'm wary of spending
nearly £400, even though that's cheap for a decent LCD.
 
/mel/ said:
Has anyone here tried one for gaming yet? Has anyone hooked one up to an
ATI AIW 9800 Pro? So far there's the Hyundai L90D+, though there may be
others with sub-16ms response times.

It's about time I replaced my ageing Dell 19in CRT, but I'm wary of
spending nearly £400, even though that's cheap for a decent LCD.
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Just bought (3 days ago) an LG Flatron 1915S 19" screen 12ms 1280 x 1024
@60Hz native resolution, only played Need For Speed Underground on it so
far, no complaints. £263.04 (inc vat & standard delivery) from
www.ebuyer.co.uk.

Previous screen Philips 109B4 19" CRT.

Will run both screens for a while, but will probably end up using just the
LCD.

Pea
 
Pea said:
Just bought (3 days ago) an LG Flatron 1915S 19" screen 12ms 1280 x 1024
@60Hz native resolution, only played Need For Speed Underground on it so
far, no complaints. £263.04 (inc vat & standard delivery) from
www.ebuyer.co.uk.

Previous screen Philips 109B4 19" CRT.

Will run both screens for a while, but will probably end up using just the
LCD.

Pea
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ATI 9800 Pro (not AIW)
Pea
 
Pea said:
Just bought (3 days ago) an LG Flatron 1915S 19" screen 12ms 1280 x
1024 @60Hz native resolution, only played Need For Speed Underground
on it so far, no complaints. £263.04 (inc vat & standard delivery)
from www.ebuyer.co.uk.
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Hmmmm. That's a lot cheaper (though I won't buy from Ebuyer again). One
problem I have is that often retailers don't specify the response time.
 
I too just bought the LG 1915s TFT and I am very happy indeed with the
performace of it.
I am using it with my 9800pro and I am pleased with the colour reproduction
and zero ghosting in all the games that I have played.

You can buy this for around £251 from Microdirect

www.microdirect.co.uk



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How is the resolution downscaling quality? On my 19" CRT I run at 1024x768
desktop resolution; anything higher and the text becomes too small for my
eyes.
 
/mel/ said:
Has anyone here tried one for gaming yet? Has anyone hooked one up to an
ATI AIW 9800 Pro? So far there's the Hyundai L90D+, though there may be
others with sub-16ms response times.

It's about time I replaced my ageing Dell 19in CRT, but I'm wary of
spending nearly £400, even though that's cheap for a decent LCD.
Click to expand...


Anyone recommend a good 19" LCD suitable for gaming that includes a DVI
connector?
 
Sony is also now producing an 8 msec Response Time,with double the
brightness level of other LCD's. Check the Sony site.
 
Try the BenQ FP937s 19" LCD. It is one of the lower priced displays around and sports a
12ms response time. I have one and it is excellent, with both an analogue and DVI input.
Also comes with a DVI cable :)
 
I really hope your native resolution is NOT 60Hz!!! It should surely be 75Hz
at that resolution. My pair of LG1715S TFTs run at 75 at 1280*1024.


Pea said:
SNIP

Just bought (3 days ago) an LG Flatron 1915S 19" screen 12ms 1280 x 1024
@60Hz native resolution, only played Need For Speed Underground on it so
far, no complaints. £263.04 (inc vat & standard delivery) from
www.ebuyer.co.uk.
Click to expand...

SNIP
 
Piers said:
I really hope your native resolution is NOT 60Hz!!! It should surely be
75Hz at that resolution. My pair of LG1715S TFTs run at 75 at 1280*1024.
Click to expand...

According to LG it can run 60 or 75. They don't say which is "native"
though.
 
J. Clarke said:
According to LG it can run 60 or 75. They don't say which is "native"
though.
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It may differ according to the interface being used - that's certainly the
case for the Hyundai I was/am looking at.
 
J. Clarke said:
According to LG it can run 60 or 75. They don't say which is "native"
though.
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Will run at 60, 70, or 75Hz Defaults to 60Hz.

When downscaling to 1024 x 768, the text is not as sharp as at 1280 x 1024,
probably the same as most LCD's. This is only the second LCD that I have
used. The other is a 15" screen I use at work (came with HP PC), native
@1024 x 768 looks o.k, but when scaled down to 800 x 600 looks crap. The LG
on the other hand looks the same @ 800x600 and 1024x768.

Pea
 
I too just bought the LG 1915s TFT and I am very happy indeed with the
performace of it.
I am using it with my 9800pro and I am pleased with the colour
reproduction and zero ghosting in all the games that I have played.

You can buy this for around £251 from Microdirect

www.microdirect.co.uk
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I also bought one of these from Micro Direct and it went faulty after 32
days (Yellow line right down the screen). They would not replace it as they
state that they are not liable after 30 days. In the end I have had to
accept a refurbished model direct from LG as a replacement (coming Monday).

Beware of whom you purchase goods from and in particular their after sales
policy.
 
Piers James said:
I really hope your native resolution is NOT 60Hz!!! It should surely be
75Hz at that resolution. My pair of LG1715S TFTs run at 75 at 1280*1024.
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Depends on the manufacturer, I guess. A relative of mine, for example, has
an NEC 1765NX (I believe) and NEC actually says that your refresh rate
should be set to 60Hz regardless of what resolution you're in. It's a 16ms
display, FWIW.
 
Has anyone here tried one for gaming yet? Has anyone hooked one up to an ATI
AIW 9800 Pro? So far there's the Hyundai L90D+, though there may be others
with sub-16ms response times.

It's about time I replaced my ageing Dell 19in CRT, but I'm wary of spending
nearly £400, even though that's cheap for a decent LCD.
Click to expand...

Just like contrast ratio, 'Response time' is over-hyped. The real rate
is often longer than what they say, and even then, only for 100% change
(black to white.) Response time is much higher for partial changes.

http://graphics.tomshardware.com/display/index.html
 
Andrew said:
Just like contrast ratio, 'Response time' is over-hyped. The real
rate is often longer than what they say, and even then, only for 100%
change (black to white.) Response time is much higher for partial
changes.

http://graphics.tomshardware.com/display/index.html
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Yeah, the more I read the more I think that I need to physically sit in
front of what I'm considering buying before actually buying the thing.
 
Steve said:
Yeah, the more I read the more I think that I need to physically sit in
front of what I'm considering buying before actually buying the thing.
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Absolutely and ask them to load up something like Doom 3 if possible. I
could never understand the complaints about it being too dark until I
got the LCD and couldn't see a damn thing. Response rate great (14ms) -
contrast crap. Still using my CRT over a dual monitor setup for gaming.
Would not go back to CRT for text though.
 
Has anyone here tried one for gaming yet? Has anyone hooked one up to an
ATI
AIW 9800 Pro? So far there's the Hyundai L90D+, though there may be others
with sub-16ms response times.

It's about time I replaced my ageing Dell 19in CRT, but I'm wary of
spending
nearly £400, even though that's cheap for a decent LCD.
Click to expand...

Just like contrast ratio, 'Response time' is over-hyped. The real rate
is often longer than what they say, and even then, only for 100% change
(black to white.) Response time is much higher for partial changes.

http://graphics.tomshardware.com/display/index.html

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Huh?

I thought response time was time it takes for white pixel to turn black,
which is worse case. Any other color is less intense than white and not
absence of color like black, so it should be better.
 
Steve said:
Yeah, the more I read the more I think that I need to physically sit in
front of what I'm considering buying before actually buying the thing.
Click to expand...

You bet. I bought a huge 16ms panel, as most reviews were enthousiastic
about it and said the responsiveness was excellent. I found it to be a
lot less than excellent, and returned it. In retrospect, it was
Tomshardware that warned me for this. Although I disagree with a lot on
their pages, the stuff about LCD's is very good imho.

I keep track of toms reviews on responserate for LCD's and let them
guide me to a new panel in the (near) future. But for sure will I check
the panel out before buying it, or make sure I can return the panel
again for a full refund.
 
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