64 bit CHips

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Hi,

Is it true that there is currently no real benefit in buying a 64 bit chip
because there is currently no 64 bit operating system?

Thanks
 
To take full advantage of a 64 bit processor you would need a 64 bit OS and 64 bit applications. AMD's 64 bit processors run 32 bit code faster that most because it has a memory controller on the processor chip (much faster than a memory controller in a separate chipset) and when it was introduced it had a 1 MB cache which was larger than what Intel had at the time. This is beside the fact that AMD cores are inherently faster than Intel at the same clock speed.

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Hi,

Is it true that there is currently no real benefit in buying a 64 bit chip
because there is currently no 64 bit operating system?

Thanks
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Hi,

Is it true that there is currently no real benefit in buying a 64 bit chip
because there is currently no 64 bit operating system?

Thanks
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Theres definitely a benefit. I keep seeing some point to this but its
moronic. The 64s are faster than the XPs.

The thing is cost. They are also dropping in cost so that makes that
point increasingly moot -- but it does cost more than a 2000XP. If
thats all the power you need , you can save money still by buying a
cheaper XP and cheap MB. However if the costs approach each other -
and they increasingly are -- then its foolish not to buy the AMD 64.
For instance anyone buys the 3200 XP at a high price -- its ridiculous
since it very close to the 64s.

The best option for an XP is to buy the 2500 XP for cheap and OC it
and buy memory that you can carry over to a 64 system giving you cost
savings and the greatest flexbitily. But things re really fluid now
with 64s dropping so you would defintely have to look up prices before
you buy either one and crunch the numbers. For instance a lot of the
really cheap refub XP board deals have disappeared as everyone is
gearing up for the new PCI express XP ,754 and 939 boards.

If you are comparing them to Pentiums - thats another deal. Probably
64 bit computing wont be a factor real soon but who knows.
 
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Hi,

Is it true that there is currently no real benefit in buying a 64 bit chip
because there is currently no 64 bit operating system?

Thanks
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That is not true. The Athlon 64 processors are great performers running
32 bit software with a 32 bit OS, since the processors have integrated memory
controller(s).

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2065&p=6

There are 64 bit versions of Linux available, as well as the beta version
of 64 bit Windows for Athlon 64. The official release of 64 bit Windows
for X86-64 will probably be in the first half of next year. There are 64 bit
compilers for a few higher level languages that run on 64 bit Linux. Here
is one interesting 64 bit application.

http://www.short-media.com/review.php?r=257&p=1
 
Hi,

Is it true that there is currently no real benefit in buying a 64 bit chip
because there is currently no 64 bit operating system?
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No, there is a benefit because the 64 bit chip has other
design benefits beyond it being 64 bit. Performance at
32bit OS & apps is higher too.
 
JK said:
That is not true. The Athlon 64 processors are great performers running
32 bit software with a 32 bit OS, since the processors have integrated memory
controller(s).

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2065&p=6

There are 64 bit versions of Linux available, as well as the beta version
of 64 bit Windows for Athlon 64. The official release of 64 bit Windows
for X86-64 will probably be in the first half of next year. There are 64 bit
compilers for a few higher level languages that run on 64 bit Linux. Here
is one interesting 64 bit application.

http://www.short-media.com/review.php?r=257&p=1
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If you're a gamer,there's also several companies developing 64 bit versions
of their games,as well. 64 bit isn't just a fad,it's here to stay.Sooner or
later,you'll want to upgrade.
 
kony said:
No, there is a benefit because the 64 bit chip has other
design benefits beyond it being 64 bit. Performance at
32bit OS & apps is higher too.
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Thanks guys, I'll get a 64 bit AMD then.
 
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Hi,

Is it true that there is currently no real benefit in buying a 64 bit chip
because there is currently no 64 bit operating system?

Thanks
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Doesn't the pentium have 64 bit registers and databus? I always thought that
486/386 were 32 bit and the major difference between pentium and 486 was
that pentium was a 64 bit processor. If the pentium isn't 64 bit then whats
the major difference between it and a 486? only clock speeds?

thx
 
The Pentium is a 32 bit processor. It has a different core than the 80486 and is much faster at a given clock speed mainly because of its multistage pipeline. Also, all but the earliest Pentium chipsets support a 64 bit memory bus. The wider memory bus is used to increase memory bandwidth between the memory and the memory controller. The processor's internal bus and registers are 32 bit but operate at a much higher speed that the external 64 bit memory bus.
Doesn't the pentium have 64 bit registers and databus? I always thought that
486/386 were 32 bit and the major difference between pentium and 486 was
that pentium was a 64 bit processor. If the pentium isn't 64 bit then whats
the major difference between it and a 486? only clock speeds?

thx
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