5728 restore point persistence

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In build 5728 it appears that restore points can be set, but soon vanish
- perhaps after a reboot or two.
This was not the case in BETA 2. Can others confirm?
 
In build 5728 it appears that restore points can be set, but soon vanish
- perhaps after a reboot or two.
This was not the case in BETA 2. Can others confirm?

No, I've not see that. I have multiple restore points going back several
days and there have been numerous reboots in between. Are you dual booting,
and if so have you booted into an XP installation? Doing that does cause
the Vista restore points to be deleted.
 
It seems it depends on how much space is alocated on the HDD for storage of
restore points.
I was installing various programs the other day and I needed to use system
restore quite a few times I did notice that it was dropping the oldest
restore points and keeping the most recent ones.
 
It seems it depends on how much space is alocated on the HDD for storage
of restore points.
I was installing various programs the other day and I needed to use system
restore quite a few times I did notice that it was dropping the oldest
restore points and keeping the most recent ones.

"Rock" wrote


Certainly, System Restore frees up space if it's needed elsewhere. I don't
know if it has a maximum amount of time it keeps restore points like XP's
default of 90 days - which was way to much anyway. SR is only good for a
week or two at most. Same with the amount of space allocated to it. In XP
it was up to 12% of the drive, which was the default, and adjustable by the
user. I don't see that adjustment capability in Vista's SR.
 
dev said:
In build 5728 it appears that restore points can be set, but soon vanish
- perhaps after a reboot or two.
This was not the case in BETA 2. Can others confirm?

My restore points in 5600 will *NOT* save.
I create a restore point, it shows a date in the box and upon reboot system
restore tells me i have NO restore points and advises me to open system
restore and make one. Default setting for S.R. and a 500Gb hard drive!
 
If you are dual-booting with XP be aware that switching to XP will wipe out
all Vista VSS copies, including System Restore points unless the Vista drive
is hidden from XP. The reverse is not true. Switching from XP to Vista
will not disturb the XP restore points.
 
/Colin Barnhorst/ said:
If you are dual-booting with XP be aware that switching to XP will wipe out
all Vista VSS copies, including System Restore points unless the Vista drive
is hidden from XP. The reverse is not true. Switching from XP to Vista
will not disturb the XP restore points.

I noted a similar warning from MS. XP and Vista are on different DRIVES
- not a traditional dual boot - but the Vista drive is not hidden from
XP. It becomes drive letter "J", and that may trigger the behavior noted.

Thanks
 
It makes no difference whether they are on separate physical drives (which
is probably the most common dual boot) or on different volumes (partitions,
drive letters, etc) the situation is the same as described by Colin.
 
dev said:
/Colin Barnhorst/ said:

I noted a similar warning from MS. XP and Vista are on different DRIVES
- not a traditional dual boot - but the Vista drive is not hidden from
XP. It becomes drive letter "J", and that may trigger the behavior noted.

Thanks


To elaborate Colin's answer:

This has nothing to do with what drive/partition each system is installed
on. The issue is that Vista continues to use volsnap.sys when dealing with
System Restore Points and the previous versions of saved files. When XP is
booted, XP discovers these files that were not created in XP and deletes
them as a matter of protection from perceived malware. This is a known
issue. Enabling BitLocker is one way of preventing this behavior, along
with "hiding" the Vista system drive from XP, as noted by Colin. Microsoft
does not have a solution at this time, nor does it foresee having a solution
in the future.

So, as a warning to those who are using dual-booting as a testbed, Vista
will not have any restore points or "previous versions" saved unless one of
the two above mentioned procedures are followed.
 
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