5400 II and SHO function ?

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Hello,

Does somes of you use this feature ?

What are the benefits and drawbacks of this mode please ?

Regards
Fia
 
fiatuni said:
Hello,

Does somes of you use this feature ?

What are the benefits and drawbacks of this mode please ?

Regards
Fia
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Just for those of us not in-the-know: what does SHO stand for?
 
sorry

Shadow & Highlight Optimized. It's issued from previous ASF and now
Kodak labs. On my minolta scanning software, i have ICE, SHO, ROC and
GEM.



It seems to work pretty good in my minolta software. ...
 
it seems it is the equivalent of photoshop function
image/adjustement/shadow and highlights but does it deserve to be set on
the scanner of the result will be the same in photoshop ?
 
Hello,

Does somes of you use this feature ?

What are the benefits and drawbacks of this mode please ?
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It's yet another "auto" mode dealing with highlights and shadows, and
promising earth and heavens...

Personally, I find it lacking and can get far better results by doing
the editing by hand. Furthermore, like it's brethren GEM, ROC, DEE and
friends, it slows down the scanning process considerably.

However, if one is not proficient in Photoshop (or any other editor of
choice) or has no time, it may produce quite acceptable results as
long as one doesn't look too closely.

Don.
 
Just for those of us not in-the-know: what does SHO stand for?
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It's one of the "triplets" of "auto" tools created by Applied Science
Fiction, the "inventors" of ICE. Formerly, a separate company, but now
a part od Kodak.

You can download all three - GEM (Grain Equalisation Management), ROC
(Restoration Of Color) and SHO (Shadow & Highlight Optimized) from
Kodak as a Photoshop plug in.

I only have the original link handy:
http://www.asf.com
but I think that will point you to the current Kodak site repository.

The try-out versions put a watermark on the final image which, like
most watermarks, is easily removed if you're so inclined.

Don.

P.S. Couldn't help myself and had to check it out... ;o) The above
site still works, they simply stuck Kodak logo on top.
 
it seems it is the equivalent of photoshop function
image/adjustement/shadow and highlights but does it deserve to be set on
the scanner of the result will be the same in photoshop ?
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It all depends on what you expect from a scanner program.

Some people (like your's truly) just want a scanner program to scan
("the raw scan sect") and they do the rest later in an editor.

Others want everything to be done within the scanner program
automatically and expect the final result at the end of it all.

Basically, the results may differ slightly between SHO and Photoshop's
automatic image adjustments but that's because they use different
algorithms. The important thing to understand it is that it's all done
in software and has nothing to do with the scanner (i.e. hardware).

So, whichever looks better to you, is... well... better... to you! ;o)
Seriously though, take a pick, it doesn't really matter all that much
where this automatic editing is done.

Don.
 
Don, are the Nikons able to output a "raw" tiff. Similar to Minolta
Scan Utility's "16 bit linear" or Vuescan's "Vuescan Raw File". I
realize the V-word is going to be a red flag, but please...
 
Don, are the Nikons able to output a "raw" tiff. Similar to Minolta
Scan Utility's "16 bit linear" or Vuescan's "Vuescan Raw File". I
realize the V-word is going to be a red flag, but please...
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Not for me! :o)

But, yes, of course! Virtually *any* scanner and scanner program can
output a raw file. All you need to do is "turn everything off", use
gamma 1.0 at native resolution and bit depth, saving to a non-lossy
file format (usually TIF).

By "turn everything off" I mean either turn the feature off (clear the
checkmark in NikonScan, for example) or if that's not possible, set
all adjustments to their neutral position, (for example, all curves as
straight lines from 0,0 to 255,255). That way even if the software
insists on using the setting, it will have no effect.

Vuescan has just hijacked the term trying to imply it can do something
special. In reality, of course, Vuescan so-called "raw" is plagued
with problems. It just gets you into more trouble with "scan from raw"
nonsense when you get profiles applied, etc. And I haven't even
mentioned the numerous Vuescan bugs! ;o)

Raw is nothing special. It's the lowest common denominator. It simply
means "don't mess with the image and give me what you get from the
scanner". Raw is what every scanner and scanner program start with.

Don.
 
Thanks!
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My pleasure!

BTW, if you're interested in raw scans, one thing I forgot to mention
last time is a potentially useful little test:

1. Do a raw scan in Vuescan.
2. Turn everything off as outlined in the previous message and do
another scan.

Now, in theory that 2nd scan should also be raw, which means that -
all other things being equal (!) - it should be identical to the first
one.

This is a good way to make sure that some setting in Vuescan is not
"secretly" on and also to check the integrity of raw scans.

Don.
 
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