48Kb just wont go away - could be off topic

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NAV 2003 up to date sigs.
No virus found.
However, clean sweep constantly (on boot) deletes everything then,
48Kb reapears immediately as available for deletion.

If I delete it manually - it also re-appears.
It appears to be something to do with internet history.
 
Titus A Ducksass said:
NAV 2003 up to date sigs.
No virus found.
However, clean sweep constantly (on boot) deletes everything then,
48Kb reapears immediately as available for deletion.

If I delete it manually - it also re-appears.
It appears to be something to do with internet history.
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And?
 
It will be a file named index.dat, the Windows client URL cache file.
Part of your OS and "empty" it will be 48K.
So nothing you could or might do about it.
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I am not convinced as it only appeard about a week ago.
I run cleansweep everytime I boot so am quite familiar with the all
files cleared / 0kb can be removed which now constantly gets reset to
48kb.
 
Tight ass. Just take the "advice" or ignore it.
Otherwise you might be infected with the RTFM.but virus.
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?, to my knowledge, your only post to this thread prior to this was
"And".

And my reply was - And I am asking advice, - it is very annoying.
My further reply is - It is still annoying that this 48Kb is still
there and as for RTFM - there is NFM suitable. GBYFH.
 
Tight ass. Just take the "advice" or ignore it.
Otherwise you might be infected with the RTFM.but virus.
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Sorry about the just sent message - didnt follow the thread properly
due to slack.

optikl was the first reply I saw.

Please forgive my unhelpful / agressive reply.
MHA's
 
from the said:
I am not convinced as it only appeard about a week ago.
I run cleansweep everytime I boot so am quite familiar with the all
files cleared / 0kb can be removed which now constantly gets reset to
48kb.
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Index.dat for a particular user will be reset to 'empty' (~48k) as soon
as the user logs on, if it does not already exist. At the same time all
temporary index files are deleted.

The cookies version works differently - if it doesn't exist, the
existing cookies are used to build a new one, so the size depends on
what cookies are around.

I'm not sure what happens with the 'history' version, but it'll be one
of those two things for sure.

Note that each user has (normally) all three index.dat's, and you can't
delete them for the currently logged on user (but an admin can delete
someone else's).
 
Titus A Ducksass said:
And I am asking advice...
It is just very annoying.
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Tight ass. Just take the "advice" or ignore it.
Otherwise you might be infected with the RTFM.but virus.
 
Lee Higdon said:
Ok, so you will not accept the explanation which you were provided. If the
extensions truly reflect the nature of the files (.tmp) what is it you are
troubled by? Have you scanned these files with a proper malware detector?
Have you attempted to open them with a text editor? What do you think is
going on with these files?
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They are continually taunting him ~ please make them stop!!

I think this is a question for the "Clean Sweep" support people.
The major concern is that "Clean Sweep" is doing something
different than it had in the past for this user.
 
Bitstring <[email protected]>, from the
wonderful person Titus A Ducksass said:
I agree with everything you say. I am familiar with how windows works
the cache, I have been using MS Software since DOS 3.2 (c.1987)
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Ah, a newcomer .. never mind ..
Clean Sweep until recently deleted all temp files (ignored the cache
files as they were not really temp files) and left me with 0.0 kb to
be deleted. Last week 48Kb showed up and 'Appears to be internet
history - empahsis on Appears'.

I can drop out of windows, turn disk protection off, delete the files
(two *.tmp files by the way) restart windows and whoa they are there
again.
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What are the file names of these files?
 
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 15:33:47 -0500, "Lee Higdon"

Ok, so you will not accept the explanation which you were provided. If the
extensions truly reflect the nature of the files (.tmp) what is it you are
troubled by? Have you scanned these files with a proper malware detector?
Have you attempted to open them with a text editor? What do you think is
going on with these files?
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It is not that I dont accept the explanation as it makes sense, it is
just that it is a very recent event, all previous clean sweeps left
0.0Kb.

Here is the content of my temp directory

temp:
3 files
~DF8C59.tmp 16Kb
~DF8203.tmp 16Kb
ZLT05fd8.TMP 1Kb - this one is owned by Zone Labs
3 directories
Cookies - empty
History - empty
Temporary Internet Files - empty

the 2 ~*.tmp files appear to be the problem, they contain (1st line) :

ÐÏࡱá >
þÿ 

 þÿÿÿ þÿÿÿ

After that they change to lots of unreadable garbage.
The clean sweep message is:
Checking this will clean your Internet history by removing the
references that your browser has to the latest web pages you
have visited.
3 file(s) will be deleted to free 48.00 KB. The sizes of these
files total 32 KB without slack.
 
from the said:
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 00:21:34 +0100, GSV Three Minds in a Can


The names change but is currently:

~DF8C59.tmp
~DF8203.tmp
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I don't believe they have anything to do with Internet History... I have
dozens of them (mostly in the recycle bin) scattered across several
volumes, some of which volumes consist entirely of music or photo data,
so no way would they be IE6 related. I just emptied the recycle bin,
deleted the (few) that were in various \temp directories, and now there
are none left.

Some sort of WinXp temp files would be my guess.
 
Titus A Ducksass said:
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 19:13:34 -0400, "FromTheRafters"

Thank you.

If they aught to be there then no problem - question is does it happen
to other people using clean sweep - there isnt a clean sweep group
(that I can find)
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I have CleanSweep on this machine I'm on, as part of Symantec SystemWorksPro
2003. It always leaves 52KB that can't be cleaned in the Internet History
folder. I've always just accepted it as something I have no control over.
 
Titus A Ducksass said:
And I am asking advice...
It is just very annoying.
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I have similarly named files on my system. If I ignore them for a while
I'll often get a few more (6-8 total). I can delete most of them manually
except the ones with a create date of today. These are normal files created
by MS Office or perhaps just by Windows, but I don't know exactly what they
do. I do know that they DO NOT slow your machine down, they aren't viruses
or malware and you don't need the 48KB back for some other purpose.
Deleting or not deleting these files will have ZERO impact on how well your
machine runs.

I look at my /temp directories every so often (once a month) and delete
what's there and what Windows will let me delete. If it won't let me delete
it, it's because it's using it!

Get over it!

Gregg C.
 
In Message-ID:<[email protected]> posted on


Maybe taking out the trash daily would cut down on that smell.

Bart
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Perhaps we should kill this thread.

My final words as the person who started it is (as previously stated):

This is a relativly new problem.
CleanSweep never left 48Kb behind before.
It only appears at present on my laptop (XP Home) and not on my main
computer (win 98SE).
 
Thanx for sending the files.

It turned out to be the remains of an overwriting process at your HD.
Replacing the adress contents with FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF.
My guess is it's Norton Clean Sweep itself and don't ask me why it didn't
occur before. You better ask symantec.

I used W32DASM V8.93

Sucz.
 
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