32 vs 64

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Depends, if you need to all your devices to work and you are not sure if
they are 64-bit native, 32 bit would be the best way to go. If device driver
support is not an issue, I don't see any issue in using 64-bit since both
platforms (x86 and x64) are identical in features.
 
If you have the capability to try both, try them both. This is not Vista
Gold and since you wouldn't dream of installing it on your primary home
computer, what difference does it make?
 
Hi,

If your hardware is fully supported, go with 64-bit. Otherwise, 32-bit still
will give plenty of performance on a good spec machine.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
 
I installed both versions, but since I can't find many drivers for my
devices in the x64 version I think I'm going to use the x86 version and wait
to see if there are any updates for the drivers in the x64 version.
 
Paul Thurrott of Winsupersite.com reported that hardware support is
excellent with the 32-bit, but so-so with the 64-bit.

Beyond that [hardware], the 64-bit will probably have some compatibility
issues with various softwares out there. It's not quite a 64-bit world for
the desktop yet .. maybe in a few months ??

In the meantime, you could give 64-bit a spin and see how well it does for
you. I plan on setting up a multiboot and use both versions of Vista.

| Any suggestions on which you think is best to install...?
|
| Jim
|
|
 
I recently learnt from Charlie Russel (MVP), that Vista packaging will
include both disk, 32 and 64-bit, 1 license key of course. I guess it will
provide a smooth transition as time goes by and more device drivers are
released for the x64 platform. So a driver not available today and presently
holding you back from moving to Vista x64 when made available a year two
from release, you can then do a clean install of x64.
 
If you need to ask - then you should stay away from VISTA 64. The
problems of going from WINXP to VISTA will keep things interesting for some
time. No need to throw in the frustrations of 64-bit device
incompatibilities.
 
I "don't need to ask"....I was attempting to see what others thoughts were
on the "subject"...That's all just start a "thread" without yelling, down
talking to anyone...Just a pleasant small simple question.....Thanks to all
those that in deed took it as it was meant.....Not that you took it in any
other way either as well....


Jim
 
This whole thread seems to be missing an important point. This is an
evaluation program. RC1 is not intended for anyone's personal use as a day
to day OS. MS is looking for pain points such as missing drivers,
difficulties in installation, and so on. It is no help to MS if folks only
try the version of RC1 that they can do the most things with or that they
are the most comfortable with.

Please try both versions if you computer supports x64. Please give feedback
on your general experience via the "sentiments" link reached by using the
Feedback icon on your desktop and bug the drivers and other issues you
encounter with the Microsoft Beta Client (downloaded with the second link).
We have been given the privilege of helping make Vista robust and
pleasurable, so lets all pitch in and help with both versions where we can.
 
Jim said:
Any suggestions on which you think is best to install...?
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Hardware support is at best minimal in x64. I'm going to stay with x86
until the final version is released. I've an action pack subscription
so I'll get the end version that way.
 
That is a good idea , of course. I wonder if it will ever be an 'all 64-bit'
world as 32-bits is, well, way way more than enough for most everything
people do with their computers [at least so far]. High performance games
seem to depend much more on the speed of the video card than the bit length
of the interger. The move from 16 bit to 32 was quite rapid with Windows 95
... but I really wonder with 64 bits. With people like Paul Thurrott claiming
support for hardware is lousy, what vendors are going to risk 64 bits for
their customers? It might be a while yet :)


|I recently learnt from Charlie Russel (MVP), that Vista packaging will
| include both disk, 32 and 64-bit, 1 license key of course. I guess it will
| provide a smooth transition as time goes by and more device drivers are
| released for the x64 platform. So a driver not available today and
presently
| holding you back from moving to Vista x64 when made available a year two
| from release, you can then do a clean install of x64.
| --
| http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
| | > Paul Thurrott of Winsupersite.com reported that hardware support is
| > excellent with the 32-bit, but so-so with the 64-bit.
| >
| > Beyond that [hardware], the 64-bit will probably have some compatibility
| > issues with various softwares out there. It's not quite a 64-bit world
for
| > the desktop yet .. maybe in a few months ??
| >
| > In the meantime, you could give 64-bit a spin and see how well it does
for
| > you. I plan on setting up a multiboot and use both versions of Vista.
| >
| > | > | Any suggestions on which you think is best to install...?
| > |
| > | Jim
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
 
Hmm .. umm .. technically no .. but Microsoft will be making this thing
available to millions. The CPP will probably be re-opened so more people can
join and there's even talk that the thing will be goopied onto magazine
covers. With such a scenario many millions will be using it as their primary
OS.

But the issue is more 32 vs 64 bit. XP 64 has a tough time of it hardware
support-wise and software compatibility-wise. There's no reason to expect
that the situation is suddenly changed just because Vista 64 has arrived.
Apparently, even a late beta, such as RC1, is still having issues with
64-bit support as reported by Paul Thurrott.

So my conclusion is that it might be a few months yet before 64-bit support
picks up enough that a computer manufacturer will default to 64-bit
pre-installs instead of 32-bit pre-installs .. even if it is this much
hallowed Windows Vista that's getting pre-installed.

But Christmas sales are still a couple or so months away so who knows?


| This whole thread seems to be missing an important point. This is an
| evaluation program. RC1 is not intended for anyone's personal use as a
day
| to day OS. MS is looking for pain points such as missing drivers,
| difficulties in installation, and so on. It is no help to MS if folks
only
| try the version of RC1 that they can do the most things with or that they
| are the most comfortable with.
|
| Please try both versions if you computer supports x64. Please give
feedback
| on your general experience via the "sentiments" link reached by using the
| Feedback icon on your desktop and bug the drivers and other issues you
| encounter with the Microsoft Beta Client (downloaded with the second
link).
| We have been given the privilege of helping make Vista robust and
| pleasurable, so lets all pitch in and help with both versions where we
can.
|
| | > Any suggestions on which you think is best to install...?
| >
| > Jim
| >
|
|
 
Actually new computers will not have NEARLY the issues that we are having
with x64 right now. Going forward, manufacturers will need to provide an x64
driver along with an x32 driver if they want to be Vista certified. Any OEM
with half a brain will make sure that the parts they spec will have both x32
and x64 drivers. They can then load whichever version is best for the
hardware.

The problem with us testers, is that we have hardware that the manufacturers
have already sold, and moved on to something new. There is no business
reason for them to get products that they no longer sell Vista certified.
Many will write x64 drivers to appease their customers, but not all.

I am actually running into more compatibility issues in RC1, and have not
yet figured out if it is Vista or x64 which are causing the issues.



<DIV>&quot;Wow&quot; &lt;[email protected]&gt; wrote in message
 
I wouldn't say support in general is lousy, just for legacy devices, its
very possible to find 64 bit native version of every device. Hopefully with
64-bit coming to the main stream with Vista, then maybe IHVs will support
the platform more readily.
 
Not sure this is the right forum or not, I want to get a message to the
Microsoft people behind Vista to get their finger out and push the hardware
industry to start supporting and providing 64 bit drivers. I experimented
with XP 64 but got fed up with poor driver support. I thought oh well, it
wont be like this when Vista is released as Vista will the next gen OS
primarily aimed at 64 bit systems. Wrong!!

I find it hard to believe that 64 with Vista seems like an after thought, I
have had a 64 bit system for a few years now and are still waiting for an OS
that can do it justice. The latest systems are so far ahead of the OS
software, I wonder if the OS will ever catch up.

I have tried the Vista 64 and it seems nice, but I can do nothing much with
it as it has no driver support for my Wireless Ethernet card, My printer, My
audio card, my video card, My scanner etc. I am sure others are feeling the
frustration as well with lack of driver support.

Vista, 3 years late, was originally touted as being the next gen 64 OS,
instead it seems Microsoft have put most of their effort into producing
another 32 bit OS.

My only hope is that enough users will tough out using Vista 64, so that the
manufactures start answering the cries for driver support.
 
I wouldn't be too anxious or too concerned.

The hardware people know where the easy money is and they'll follow
customer trends anyway on the principle that it will be silly (and loss
making) not to do so.

Besides, you can always contact your hardware people with something
along the lines of: Oi! Where's my Vista driver!"

I am sure market forces will come into play so ... my hope is lots of
people elect to purchase the 64 bit variant on the principle that the
loudest voice in market forces is where people are prepared to spend
their hard earned income.
 
DJW said:
Not sure this is the right forum or not, I want to get a message to the
Microsoft people behind Vista to get their finger out and push the
hardware
industry to start supporting and providing 64 bit drivers. I experimented
with XP 64 but got fed up with poor driver support. I thought oh well, it
wont be like this when Vista is released as Vista will the next gen OS
primarily aimed at 64 bit systems. Wrong!!

I find it hard to believe that 64 with Vista seems like an after thought,
I
have had a 64 bit system for a few years now and are still waiting for an
OS
that can do it justice. The latest systems are so far ahead of the OS
software, I wonder if the OS will ever catch up.

I have tried the Vista 64 and it seems nice, but I can do nothing much
with
it as it has no driver support for my Wireless Ethernet card, My printer,
My
audio card, my video card, My scanner etc. I am sure others are feeling
the
frustration as well with lack of driver support.

Vista, 3 years late, was originally touted as being the next gen 64 OS,
instead it seems Microsoft have put most of their effort into producing
another 32 bit OS.

My only hope is that enough users will tough out using Vista 64, so that
the
manufactures start answering the cries for driver support.
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same here, but with XP64...i run it about 3-4 months, but i can't run my
Xerox laser and my (ok, old) Acer scanner...
eventhough, it's pretty much useless, since all 64 bit programs are Internet
explorer and Outlook Express...
sad, really.
When i contacted Logitech, for example, since i've had their (ok, again old)
keyboard Internet navigator, they replied that this product WON'T be
supported in 64 bit system. Period. In short, they said something like "f**k
you, buy another keyboard and give us more money..."
but, for example Canon pixma do have 64 bit drivers, same goes for audio and
LAN (realtek-nvidia Nforce4)
 
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