32-to-64 bit hardware change & Vista Upgrade

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This is somewhat complicated, and I could use the advice of the community
before I go through with this hardware swap an upgrade from 32-64 bit Vista.

I was running XP Professional and upgraded Vista Home Premium (custom
installation) on a system with a motherboard running a Athlon 3200 processor.
I have the UPGRADE Version of Vista Home Premium.

I have multiple hard drives and kept an intalled version of XP Pro
operational. (It came in very handy during the initial release of Vista
because of compatibility issues).

Recently I had some problems with a Internet Explorer Security upgrade and
MS said I needed to reinstall Vista as the solution. Since I planned to
install a new Motherboard with a Athlon 64 X2 3800+, we agreed I should just
wait. Now I have the new motherboard and processor and I am ready to go. I
just ordered the Vista Home Premium 64 Bit Upgrade version, which should be
delivered in a few days.

What I have been able to learn on the knowledge base, tech articles and the
community suggest the basic steps for the upgrade that applys to the above is
a CLEAN CUSTOM installation as follows:

1. Back up my Vista 32 Bit installation and data by using Windows Easy
Transfer on the 32-Bit Vista Home Premium DVD. (Is it necessary to remove
the 32-Bit Version of Vista afterwards?).

2. Swap the current 32-bit Motherboard with the new one containing new 64
X2 processor.

3. Set the boot drive to be the one on which XP Pro is installed. (Does
this matter and is there going to be a key issue since the hardware changed?)?

4. Boot the new hardware from a Vista 64 bit Home Premium DVD [UPGRADE
VERSION] - Custom Installation.

5. Call MS to get a new key?? What Number do I call? Is this supported or
do I have to pay for it?

6. After the Vista Home Premium 64-bit installation completes, complete the
transition by using Windows Easy Transfer to reload the application data ,
etc.

Is this right? Pros and Cons? What am I missing. I want this to go
smoothly and not to take a week to do because I missed something.
 
The upgrade versions of Vista won't complete unless there is an eligible OS
already installed. When going from a 32 bit OS to a 64 bit OS with an
upgrade version the normal procedure is to boot from the 64 bit DVD and
start the install. During the install when you enter the product key the
upgrade will look for an eligible OS already installed. If it doesn't see
one the install won't proceed. If it does see one then a clean installation
will be done. Vista is not like XP where you can insert a CD OS for an
eligible OS. The OS has to be already installed. There is a way around this
but it is not officially supported by Microsoft. Essentially it's this. Boot
from the DVD and when you get to the point where you enter a key leave it
blank.You will then be asked which version you wish to install. Make sure
you pick the right version. Also make sure the option to activate Vista
after the install is not ticked. Once Vista is installed boot into Vista
then insert the DVD. Install it again this time entering the key and picking
the upgrade option. Here is a link with detailed instructions.

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_upgrade_clean.asp

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


Corky1310 said:
This is somewhat complicated, and I could use the advice of the community
before I go through with this hardware swap an upgrade from 32-64 bit
Vista.

I was running XP Professional and upgraded Vista Home Premium (custom
installation) on a system with a motherboard running a Athlon 3200
processor.
I have the UPGRADE Version of Vista Home Premium.

I have multiple hard drives and kept an intalled version of XP Pro
operational. (It came in very handy during the initial release of Vista
because of compatibility issues).

Recently I had some problems with a Internet Explorer Security upgrade and
MS said I needed to reinstall Vista as the solution. Since I planned to
install a new Motherboard with a Athlon 64 X2 3800+, we agreed I should
just
wait. Now I have the new motherboard and processor and I am ready to go.
I
just ordered the Vista Home Premium 64 Bit Upgrade version, which should
be
delivered in a few days.

What I have been able to learn on the knowledge base, tech articles and
the
community suggest the basic steps for the upgrade that applys to the above
is
a CLEAN CUSTOM installation as follows:

1. Back up my Vista 32 Bit installation and data by using Windows Easy
Transfer on the 32-Bit Vista Home Premium DVD. (Is it necessary to
remove
the 32-Bit Version of Vista afterwards?).

2. Swap the current 32-bit Motherboard with the new one containing new 64
X2 processor.

3. Set the boot drive to be the one on which XP Pro is installed. (Does
this matter and is there going to be a key issue since the hardware
changed?)?

4. Boot the new hardware from a Vista 64 bit Home Premium DVD [UPGRADE
VERSION] - Custom Installation.

5. Call MS to get a new key?? What Number do I call? Is this supported or
do I have to pay for it?

6. After the Vista Home Premium 64-bit installation completes, complete
the
transition by using Windows Easy Transfer to reload the application data
,
etc.

Is this right? Pros and Cons? What am I missing. I want this to go
smoothly and not to take a week to do because I missed something.
Click to expand...
 
Kerry:

That was an excellent response. It answers many of my questions and makes it
a lot simpler than the approach I was going to use.

I am still open to hearing from other experts. A little research on this
unusual hardware upgrade on the front end could save me days of time next
week when I actually do it.
--
Corky


Kerry Brown said:
The upgrade versions of Vista won't complete unless there is an eligible OS
already installed. When going from a 32 bit OS to a 64 bit OS with an
upgrade version the normal procedure is to boot from the 64 bit DVD and
start the install. During the install when you enter the product key the
upgrade will look for an eligible OS already installed. If it doesn't see
one the install won't proceed. If it does see one then a clean installation
will be done. Vista is not like XP where you can insert a CD OS for an
eligible OS. The OS has to be already installed. There is a way around this
but it is not officially supported by Microsoft. Essentially it's this. Boot
from the DVD and when you get to the point where you enter a key leave it
blank.You will then be asked which version you wish to install. Make sure
you pick the right version. Also make sure the option to activate Vista
after the install is not ticked. Once Vista is installed boot into Vista
then insert the DVD. Install it again this time entering the key and picking
the upgrade option. Here is a link with detailed instructions.

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_upgrade_clean.asp

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


Corky1310 said:
This is somewhat complicated, and I could use the advice of the community
before I go through with this hardware swap an upgrade from 32-64 bit
Vista.

I was running XP Professional and upgraded Vista Home Premium (custom
installation) on a system with a motherboard running a Athlon 3200
processor.
I have the UPGRADE Version of Vista Home Premium.

I have multiple hard drives and kept an intalled version of XP Pro
operational. (It came in very handy during the initial release of Vista
because of compatibility issues).

Recently I had some problems with a Internet Explorer Security upgrade and
MS said I needed to reinstall Vista as the solution. Since I planned to
install a new Motherboard with a Athlon 64 X2 3800+, we agreed I should
just
wait. Now I have the new motherboard and processor and I am ready to go.
I
just ordered the Vista Home Premium 64 Bit Upgrade version, which should
be
delivered in a few days.

What I have been able to learn on the knowledge base, tech articles and
the
community suggest the basic steps for the upgrade that applys to the above
is
a CLEAN CUSTOM installation as follows:

1. Back up my Vista 32 Bit installation and data by using Windows Easy
Transfer on the 32-Bit Vista Home Premium DVD. (Is it necessary to
remove
the 32-Bit Version of Vista afterwards?).

2. Swap the current 32-bit Motherboard with the new one containing new 64
X2 processor.

3. Set the boot drive to be the one on which XP Pro is installed. (Does
this matter and is there going to be a key issue since the hardware
changed?)?

4. Boot the new hardware from a Vista 64 bit Home Premium DVD [UPGRADE
VERSION] - Custom Installation.

5. Call MS to get a new key?? What Number do I call? Is this supported or
do I have to pay for it?

6. After the Vista Home Premium 64-bit installation completes, complete
the
transition by using Windows Easy Transfer to reload the application data
,
etc.

Is this right? Pros and Cons? What am I missing. I want this to go
smoothly and not to take a week to do because I missed something.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Re-reading my answer I realised I missed a step. You would have to use the
Easy Transfer if you want to transfer your settings and data if you use the
method I described.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


Corky1310 said:
Kerry:

That was an excellent response. It answers many of my questions and makes
it
a lot simpler than the approach I was going to use.

I am still open to hearing from other experts. A little research on this
unusual hardware upgrade on the front end could save me days of time next
week when I actually do it.
--
Corky


Kerry Brown said:
The upgrade versions of Vista won't complete unless there is an eligible
OS
already installed. When going from a 32 bit OS to a 64 bit OS with an
upgrade version the normal procedure is to boot from the 64 bit DVD and
start the install. During the install when you enter the product key the
upgrade will look for an eligible OS already installed. If it doesn't see
one the install won't proceed. If it does see one then a clean
installation
will be done. Vista is not like XP where you can insert a CD OS for an
eligible OS. The OS has to be already installed. There is a way around
this
but it is not officially supported by Microsoft. Essentially it's this.
Boot
from the DVD and when you get to the point where you enter a key leave it
blank.You will then be asked which version you wish to install. Make sure
you pick the right version. Also make sure the option to activate Vista
after the install is not ticked. Once Vista is installed boot into Vista
then insert the DVD. Install it again this time entering the key and
picking
the upgrade option. Here is a link with detailed instructions.

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_upgrade_clean.asp

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


Corky1310 said:
This is somewhat complicated, and I could use the advice of the
community
before I go through with this hardware swap an upgrade from 32-64 bit
Vista.

I was running XP Professional and upgraded Vista Home Premium (custom
installation) on a system with a motherboard running a Athlon 3200
processor.
I have the UPGRADE Version of Vista Home Premium.

I have multiple hard drives and kept an intalled version of XP Pro
operational. (It came in very handy during the initial release of Vista
because of compatibility issues).

Recently I had some problems with a Internet Explorer Security upgrade
and
MS said I needed to reinstall Vista as the solution. Since I planned
to
install a new Motherboard with a Athlon 64 X2 3800+, we agreed I should
just
wait. Now I have the new motherboard and processor and I am ready to
go.
I
just ordered the Vista Home Premium 64 Bit Upgrade version, which
should
be
delivered in a few days.

What I have been able to learn on the knowledge base, tech articles and
the
community suggest the basic steps for the upgrade that applys to the
above
is
a CLEAN CUSTOM installation as follows:

1. Back up my Vista 32 Bit installation and data by using Windows Easy
Transfer on the 32-Bit Vista Home Premium DVD. (Is it necessary to
remove
the 32-Bit Version of Vista afterwards?).

2. Swap the current 32-bit Motherboard with the new one containing new
64
X2 processor.

3. Set the boot drive to be the one on which XP Pro is installed.
(Does
this matter and is there going to be a key issue since the hardware
changed?)?

4. Boot the new hardware from a Vista 64 bit Home Premium DVD [UPGRADE
VERSION] - Custom Installation.

5. Call MS to get a new key?? What Number do I call? Is this supported
or
do I have to pay for it?

6. After the Vista Home Premium 64-bit installation completes, complete
the
transition by using Windows Easy Transfer to reload the application
data
,
etc.

Is this right? Pros and Cons? What am I missing. I want this to go
smoothly and not to take a week to do because I missed something.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Yes, and my understanding is that I need to do that from the 32-bit DVD and
not the 64-bit DVD. Is that correct?
--
Corky


Kerry Brown said:
Re-reading my answer I realised I missed a step. You would have to use the
Easy Transfer if you want to transfer your settings and data if you use the
method I described.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


Corky1310 said:
Kerry:

That was an excellent response. It answers many of my questions and makes
it
a lot simpler than the approach I was going to use.

I am still open to hearing from other experts. A little research on this
unusual hardware upgrade on the front end could save me days of time next
week when I actually do it.
--
Corky


Kerry Brown said:
The upgrade versions of Vista won't complete unless there is an eligible
OS
already installed. When going from a 32 bit OS to a 64 bit OS with an
upgrade version the normal procedure is to boot from the 64 bit DVD and
start the install. During the install when you enter the product key the
upgrade will look for an eligible OS already installed. If it doesn't see
one the install won't proceed. If it does see one then a clean
installation
will be done. Vista is not like XP where you can insert a CD OS for an
eligible OS. The OS has to be already installed. There is a way around
this
but it is not officially supported by Microsoft. Essentially it's this.
Boot
from the DVD and when you get to the point where you enter a key leave it
blank.You will then be asked which version you wish to install. Make sure
you pick the right version. Also make sure the option to activate Vista
after the install is not ticked. Once Vista is installed boot into Vista
then insert the DVD. Install it again this time entering the key and
picking
the upgrade option. Here is a link with detailed instructions.

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_upgrade_clean.asp

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


This is somewhat complicated, and I could use the advice of the
community
before I go through with this hardware swap an upgrade from 32-64 bit
Vista.

I was running XP Professional and upgraded Vista Home Premium (custom
installation) on a system with a motherboard running a Athlon 3200
processor.
I have the UPGRADE Version of Vista Home Premium.

I have multiple hard drives and kept an intalled version of XP Pro
operational. (It came in very handy during the initial release of Vista
because of compatibility issues).

Recently I had some problems with a Internet Explorer Security upgrade
and
MS said I needed to reinstall Vista as the solution. Since I planned
to
install a new Motherboard with a Athlon 64 X2 3800+, we agreed I should
just
wait. Now I have the new motherboard and processor and I am ready to
go.
I
just ordered the Vista Home Premium 64 Bit Upgrade version, which
should
be
delivered in a few days.

What I have been able to learn on the knowledge base, tech articles and
the
community suggest the basic steps for the upgrade that applys to the
above
is
a CLEAN CUSTOM installation as follows:

1. Back up my Vista 32 Bit installation and data by using Windows Easy
Transfer on the 32-Bit Vista Home Premium DVD. (Is it necessary to
remove
the 32-Bit Version of Vista afterwards?).

2. Swap the current 32-bit Motherboard with the new one containing new
64
X2 processor.

3. Set the boot drive to be the one on which XP Pro is installed.
(Does
this matter and is there going to be a key issue since the hardware
changed?)?

4. Boot the new hardware from a Vista 64 bit Home Premium DVD [UPGRADE
VERSION] - Custom Installation.

5. Call MS to get a new key?? What Number do I call? Is this supported
or
do I have to pay for it?

6. After the Vista Home Premium 64-bit installation completes, complete
the
transition by using Windows Easy Transfer to reload the application
data
,
etc.

Is this right? Pros and Cons? What am I missing. I want this to go
smoothly and not to take a week to do because I missed something.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
I've never tried using Easy Transfer to migrate from 32 bit to 64 bit so I'm
not sure if it will work. I just tried a 64 bit DVD in a 32 bit version of
Vista. The version of Easy Transfer on the 64 bit DVD is a 64 bit program
and won't run in a 32 bit version of Vista. I don't think I'd rely on Easy
Transfer working. Backup your data by another method in case it doesn't
work.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


Corky1310 said:
Yes, and my understanding is that I need to do that from the 32-bit DVD
and
not the 64-bit DVD. Is that correct?
--
Corky


Kerry Brown said:
Re-reading my answer I realised I missed a step. You would have to use
the
Easy Transfer if you want to transfer your settings and data if you use
the
method I described.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


Corky1310 said:
Kerry:

That was an excellent response. It answers many of my questions and
makes
it
a lot simpler than the approach I was going to use.

I am still open to hearing from other experts. A little research on
this
unusual hardware upgrade on the front end could save me days of time
next
week when I actually do it.
--
Corky


:

The upgrade versions of Vista won't complete unless there is an
eligible
OS
already installed. When going from a 32 bit OS to a 64 bit OS with an
upgrade version the normal procedure is to boot from the 64 bit DVD
and
start the install. During the install when you enter the product key
the
upgrade will look for an eligible OS already installed. If it doesn't
see
one the install won't proceed. If it does see one then a clean
installation
will be done. Vista is not like XP where you can insert a CD OS for an
eligible OS. The OS has to be already installed. There is a way around
this
but it is not officially supported by Microsoft. Essentially it's
this.
Boot
from the DVD and when you get to the point where you enter a key leave
it
blank.You will then be asked which version you wish to install. Make
sure
you pick the right version. Also make sure the option to activate
Vista
after the install is not ticked. Once Vista is installed boot into
Vista
then insert the DVD. Install it again this time entering the key and
picking
the upgrade option. Here is a link with detailed instructions.

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_upgrade_clean.asp

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


This is somewhat complicated, and I could use the advice of the
community
before I go through with this hardware swap an upgrade from 32-64
bit
Vista.

I was running XP Professional and upgraded Vista Home Premium
(custom
installation) on a system with a motherboard running a Athlon 3200
processor.
I have the UPGRADE Version of Vista Home Premium.

I have multiple hard drives and kept an intalled version of XP Pro
operational. (It came in very handy during the initial release of
Vista
because of compatibility issues).

Recently I had some problems with a Internet Explorer Security
upgrade
and
MS said I needed to reinstall Vista as the solution. Since I
planned
to
install a new Motherboard with a Athlon 64 X2 3800+, we agreed I
should
just
wait. Now I have the new motherboard and processor and I am ready
to
go.
I
just ordered the Vista Home Premium 64 Bit Upgrade version, which
should
be
delivered in a few days.

What I have been able to learn on the knowledge base, tech articles
and
the
community suggest the basic steps for the upgrade that applys to the
above
is
a CLEAN CUSTOM installation as follows:

1. Back up my Vista 32 Bit installation and data by using Windows
Easy
Transfer on the 32-Bit Vista Home Premium DVD. (Is it necessary to
remove
the 32-Bit Version of Vista afterwards?).

2. Swap the current 32-bit Motherboard with the new one containing
new
64
X2 processor.

3. Set the boot drive to be the one on which XP Pro is installed.
(Does
this matter and is there going to be a key issue since the hardware
changed?)?

4. Boot the new hardware from a Vista 64 bit Home Premium DVD
[UPGRADE
VERSION] - Custom Installation.

5. Call MS to get a new key?? What Number do I call? Is this
supported
or
do I have to pay for it?

6. After the Vista Home Premium 64-bit installation completes,
complete
the
transition by using Windows Easy Transfer to reload the application
data
,
etc.

Is this right? Pros and Cons? What am I missing. I want this to
go
smoothly and not to take a week to do because I missed something.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
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