Hi Lax,
I'm going to have to meditate on this one now. Hopefully
I'll have an epiphany and post some more ideas soon.
Cheers,
Jimmy.
"Lex" <LL> wrote in message | Just tried them, but still no luck. I guess forgetting key combinations like
| that shows I spend far too much time in DOS 6.22 (where I do a lot of my
| work). Tried a few other common combinations of keys but no luck with those
| either.
| No abilities with display properties for changing the windows there.Anything
| else you can think of?
| I've tried browsing through a few more of the fixes with QfixApp, but
| nothing much that appeals to me there. Oh and if you want my
| ICQ/MSN/AIM/YIM/Email etc. to make it easier to try to solve just ask. I'm
| quite happy to give them.
| Ah, and I tried it on yet another machine (not mine) but came across the
| same problem again. Figured it's always good to check.
| "Jimmy S." <Private> wrote in message | > Hi Lex,
| >
| > Try pressing Shift (or Ctrl) + ENTER to get into Window mode.
| > Look in Display Property / Settings / Advanced and see if there
| > is an option for that available through the video card drivers, and
| > check the game's documentation for a -windowed switch. GL!
| >
| > --
| > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > Jimmy S.
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| >
| >
| > Game FAQs:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
| > Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite:
http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call /
| Contact
| > MS Support at:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top
| > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any
| rights.
| > _________________________________________________________
| >
| > "Lex" <LL> wrote in message
| | > | Here's the real beauty. I'm having no luck forcing it into windowed
| mode. It
| > | seems impossible. I can run it through a shortcut to use normal window
| > | rather than maximized, it still enters full screen.It's not a DOS game
| so
| > | there's no "screen" tab in the properties...so I'm not sure if this
| seems
| > | like a blindingly obvious question but how exactly can I force it into
| > | Windowed mode? ( I tend not to use XP unless I have to so it may be
| common
| > | ignorance on my part ("_))
| > |
| > | And given that I probably haven't said it thusfar, I am very greatful
| for
| > | your help on this one
| > | "Jimmy S." <Private> wrote in message
| | > | > Hi Lex,
| > | >
| > | > If this is occurring in full screen mode, I would try forcing
| > | > the game to play in windowed mode instead. HTH!
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > | > Jimmy S.
|
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > Game FAQs:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
| > | > Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite:
http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call /
| > | Contact
| > | > MS Support at:
|
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top
| > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any
| > | rights.
| > | > _________________________________________________________
| > | >
| > | > "Lex" <LL> wrote in message
| | > | > | Just to tell, I have still had no luck. Tried all the refresh rates
| > | > | available for that monitor. Also it works with the standard rate in
| > | Windows
| > | > | 98 (same monitor).
| > | > | I'm got the impression it was just the way this game was using the
| 256
| > | color
| > | > | display, but given that the hundreds of other games which require
| 256
| > | color
| > | > | all seem to work you'd think they all try to behave in the same way
| > | ("_)..
| > | > |
| > | > | I'm still stuck with it. If anyone else has any
| suggestions...then..post
| > | and
| > | > | I'll certainly try them. For the moment I just recommended to the
| user
| > | to
| > | > | load up VMWare or VirtualPC with Windows 98 ("_) His computer should
| be
| > | > | powerful enough for it...I think.
| > | > | | > | > | > I'm wondering if it's a refresh rate problem, where the monitor
| cannot
| > | run
| > | > | > at the combined rate and resolution that it is being asked to when
| the
| > | > | games
| > | > | > go into the special 256 color mode. In some cases, interrupting
| the
| > | > | signal,
| > | > | > such as it would when ALT+TABing out, may allow the monitor to
| lock
| > | in,
| > | > | thus
| > | > | > allowing the game to run.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "Lex" <LL> wrote in message
| > | > | | > | > | > > The Alt+Tab isn't really a workaround. Although you get to see
| the
| > | game,
| > | > | > > well...it's kinda hard to play having to alt+tab all the time
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > I guess this is one of those ones which won't be solved. There
| are
| > | no
| > | > | > extra
| > | > | > > settings on my graphics card, and just to check I hit another
| > | graphics
| > | > | > card
| > | > | > > into my computer and the same thing happens. Personally it
| doesn't
| > | > | bother
| > | > | > > me, (apart from more games being on my "non-working-XPcompat
| > | list).This
| > | > | > > request was more for someone else who asked me about the game.
| > | Doesn't
| > | > | > > bother me because I can simply boot to any other Windows
| Operating
| > | > | system
| > | > | > on
| > | > | > > other computers or that computer, just the guy who asked
| me...can't
| > |
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > The Custom PIF settings I've also tried as well. Really all the
| > | standard
| > | > | > > stuff I've tried. To be perfectly honest I;ve only really used
| them
| > | for
| > | > | > > things such as disabling DPMI support for games. Just wondered
| if
| > | any of
| > | > | > the
| > | > | > > MVP's here had any other info on the 256 color thing that I was
| > | missing.
| > | > | I
| > | > | > > guess it might remain one of those great unsolved ("_).
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > Oh well, guess I'll just leave that one off my list then, game
| #2084
| > | to
| > | > | > > start now then
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > "Jimmy S." <Private> wrote in message
| > | > | > | > | > | > > > Hi Chris!
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > > If it's a DOS game, Lex has already seen my suggestions,
| however
| > | > | > > > he might want to experiment with custom PIF settings to see if
| > | they
| > | > | > > > have any effect on that issue. At least he has the Alt+Tab
| > | > | workaround.
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > > --
| > | > | > > > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell /
| > | User
| > | > | > > > Jimmy S.
| > | > |
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > > Game FAQs:
| > |
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
| > | > | > > > Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite:
http://nibblesnbits.tk or
| > | Call /
| > | > | > > Contact
| > | > | > > > MS Support at:
| > | > | >
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top
| > | > | > > > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I
| confer
| > | any
| > | > | > > rights.
| > | > | > > > _________________________________________________________
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > | > | > | > > > | Perhaps Jimmy will drop in with a suggestion, but I've never
| > | seen a
| > | > | > > program
| > | > | > > > | have that issue, Lex. Are you running any special settings
| on
| > | your
| > | > | > > graphics
| > | > | > > > | card? No over-clocking, correct?
| > | > | > > > | --
| > | > | > > > | Chris H.
| > | > | > > > | Microsoft Windows MVP
| > | > | > > > | Tablet Creations -
http://nicecreations.us/
| > | > | > > > | Associate Expert
| > | > | > > > | Expert Zone -
| > | > | > > > |
| > | > | > > > |
| > | > | > > > | "Lex" <LL> wrote in message
| > | > | > > | > | > | > > > | > Yes, I have installed it with compatibility mode.
| > | > | > > > | > I have used the compatibility settings to run it. My point
| is
| > | that
| > | > | > the
| > | > | > > > | > game
| > | > | > > > | > doesn't run even when in 256 color compatibility.
| > | > | > > > | > Really I suppose I was wondering whether there was some
| > | problem
| > | > | with
| > | > | > > > | > Windows
| > | > | > > > | > XP 256 color compatibility...given that this game works on
| > | every
| > | > | > > single
| > | > | > > > | > other Operating System I've tried it on. The program is
| fully
| > | > | > updated,
| > | > | > > as
| > | > | > > > | > are all my programs. This appears (to me) to be a problem
| with
| > | > | > Windows
| > | > | > > XP
| > | > | > > > | > 256 color mode, given the fact that it only works when
| > | Alt+Tabbing
| > | > | > > back
| > | > | > > > | > into
| > | > | > > > | > the game. Or at least a problem with XP 256 color mode
| and
| > | the
| > | > | way
| > | > | > > this
| > | > | > > > | > game tries to use 256 color.
| > | > | > > > | >
| > | > | > > > | > And of course, I do realise most of the older games will
| work
| > | on
| > | > | > > Windows
| > | > | > > > | > XP.
| > | > | > > > | > I have over 1500 old games (I can't stand the new games.
|
)
| > | and
| > | > | > only
| > | > | > > few
| > | > | > > > | > refuse to work. This is one of them.
| > | > | > > > | >
| > | > | > > > | > Any real suggestions on getting this game to work in XP?
| > | > | > > > | >
| > | > | > > > | > | > | > | > > > | >> Basically, what Compatibility Mode does is allow the
| older
| > | > | program
| > | > | > to
| > | > | > > > | >> "think" it is being installed on the operating system for
| > | which
| > | > | it
| > | > | > > was
| > | > | > > > | >> designed. You also need to pay attention to the game's
| > | > | > > requirements,
| > | > | > > > | >> and
| > | > | > > > | >> some need to be installed using Compatibility starting
| with
| > | the
| > | > | > > > | > installation
| > | > | > > > | >> itself by going to Start/Run/Browse and locating the
| > | install.exe
| > | > | or
| > | > | > > > | >> setup.exe file on the root of the CD. You can
| right-click
| > | that
| > | > | > file,
| > | > | > > > | > follow
| > | > | > > > | >> the pattern to use Compatibility Mode and have it
| install.
| > | > | > > > | >>
| > | > | > > > | >> Most of the "older" games will run perfectly well on
| Windows
| > | XP.
| > | > | > > Some
| > | > | > > > | > need
| > | > | > > > | >> to use Compatibility Mode (details are in Help and
| Support),
| > | and
| > | > | > this
| > | > | > > > | >> TechNet article will help you:
| > | > | > > > | >>
| > | > | > > > | >
| > | > | > >
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > |
|
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/lgcyapps.mspx
| > | > | > > > | >>
| > | > | > > > | >> After the install, make sure to update the program from
| the
| > | web
| > | > | > site
| > | > | > > of
| > | > | > > > | > the
| > | > | > > > | >> creator, then right-click the icon you'll use to launch
| the
| > | game
| > | > | > and
| > | > | > > make
| > | > | > > > | >> sure the proper Compatibility settings are ready. You
| also
| > | need
| > | > | to
| > | > | > > make
| > | > | > > > | >> sure the proper display and color settings are selected.
| > | Turning
| > | > | > off
| > | > | > > > | >> "themes" in the Compatibility section will allow you to
| > | continue
| > | > | to
| > | > | > > run
| > | > | > > > | > them
| > | > | > > > | >> in your regular Windows setup, but will disable them only
| for
| > | the
| > | > | > > > | > particular
| > | > | > > > | >> game.
| > | > | > > > | >> --
| > | > | > > > | >> Chris H.
| > | > | > > > | >> Microsoft Windows MVP
| > | > | > > > | >> Tablet Creations -
http://nicecreations.us/
| > | > | > > > | >> Associate Expert
| > | > | > > > | >> Expert Zone -
| > | > | > > > | >>
| > | > | > > > | >>
| > | > | > > > | >> "Lex" <LL> wrote in message
| > | > | > > > | > | > | > | > > > | >> >I have a game here which needs WinG.dll and 256 colors.
| It
| > | is a
| > | > | > > windows
| > | > | > > > | >> > game. I have installed the latest WinG library from the
| > | > | microsoft
| > | > | > > site.
| > | > | > > > | >> > I have changed the game's properties so it runs in
| > | > | compatibility
| > | > | > > mode
| > | > | > > > | > with
| > | > | > > > | >> > 256 colors. I have disabled visual themes etc. (in fact
| > | I've
| > | > | > tried
| > | > | > > it
| > | > | > > > | > with
| > | > | > > > | >> > several combinations).
| > | > | > > > | >> >
| > | > | > > > | >> > When I run the game, it appears fine until I get to the
| > | menu
| > | > | > > screen. At
| > | > | > > > | >> > which point I just get a blank black screen. if I
| alt+tab
| > | back
| > | > | > into
| > | > | > > > | >> > Windows
| > | > | > > > | >> > and then again back into the game, the display appears
| > | > | fine...but
| > | > | > > as
| > | > | > > > | > soon
| > | > | > > > | >> > as
| > | > | > > > | >> > I choose an option, it goes black again..so I have to
| > | Alt+Tab
| > | > | > again
| > | > | > > . I
| > | > | > > > | >> > think this is probably something to do with 256 color
| mode
| > | for
| > | > | > this
| > | > | > > > | >> > game
| > | > | > > > | >> > but
| > | > | > > > | >> > I don't know what.
| > | > | > > > | >> >
| > | > | > > > | >> > Do any of you know the solution?
| > | > | > > > | >> > The game is Vikings - Strategy of the Ultimate
| Conquest..
| > | > | > > > | >> >
| > | > | > > > | >> > Oh, and the game works perfectly on Windows 98 SE and
| > | Windows
| > | > | 95b
| > | > | > > and I
| > | > | > > > | >> > haven't tried it on Windows 2000. It seems to just be
| > | Windows
| > | > | > XP...
| > | > | > > > | >> >
| > | > | > > > | >> > Any suggestions? Would there be any other compatibility
| > | options
| > | > | > > using
| > | > | > > > | > Qfix
| > | > | > > > | >> > util that could fix it?
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