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[Sukhoi47]

Hi all,

I am using Mozy and I recommend as a professional and free online
backup.
Keep your files safe.

Use this link to get extra 256 MB after do your first backup:
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Or use the promotional code 94HW8M


I hope this will be useful for you.

SB

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Hi all,

I am using Mozy and I recommend as a professional and free online
backup.

In these times of rampant identity theft, what kind of an idiot would
trust the personal data to an on-line "storage" service? That'd just be
begging for trouble.


--

Bruce Chambers

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[David H. Lipman]

From: "Bruce Chambers" <[email protected]>

|
| In these times of rampant identity theft, what kind of an idiot would
| trust the personal data to an on-line "storage" service? That'd just be
| begging for trouble.
|

I can't agree more !

 

[Larry Samuels]

Hi Bruce,

On the contrary--there are quite a few reputable online backup services and
I recommend them to my business clients for offsite storage.

PS--any reputable company uses customer-controlled encryption and the files
are encrypted before transfer. They couldn't read the encrypted data on
their servers if they wanted to.

PPS--none of the companies I would trust are free <G>

--
Larry Samuels Associate Expert
MS-MVP (2001-2005)
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
Expert Zone-

 

[R. McCarty]

Off site backups can be very handy for small business operations. I
have a customer who uses Backup Solutions. Just recently, we had
a QuickBooks data file issue. We pulled the latest backup from their
system and was back on line in a just a few minutes. Costs less than
$40 per month for 6 Gigabytes of storage.

 

[Gary Walker]

Perhaps this is not an issue with you, or it's in some way
circumvented to your satisfaction, but I would never
send sensitive financial data offsite via an ip connection.

What am I missing here?


Gary

 

[Larry Samuels]

Hi Gary,

You are missing the fact that all data sent offsite is encrypted by the
local machine before transfer. It cannot be read by sniffers or by anyone at
the remote location.
The only downside to that is if you lose your encryption key, you lose your
backups. There is no recovery from a lost encryption key.

While I recommend against encrypting files stored locally for all except
advanced users, I *insist* on file encryption for any data stored offsite
regardless of the user's skill level. This includes data stored to cd/dvd
and taken home at night.

--
Larry Samuels Associate Expert
MS-MVP (2001-2005)
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
Expert Zone-

 

[David H. Lipman]

From: "R. McCarty" <[email protected]>

| Off site backups can be very handy for small business operations. I
| have a customer who uses Backup Solutions. Just recently, we had
| a QuickBooks data file issue. We pulled the latest backup from their
| system and was back on line in a just a few minutes. Costs less than
| $40 per month for 6 Gigabytes of storage.

6GB can fit on one double-sided DVD or 1 blue-ray.

A small business could and should invest on a DVD Recordable drive.

 

[David H. Lipman]

From: "Gary Walker" <[email protected]>

|
| Perhaps this is not an issue with you, or it's in some way
| circumvented to your satisfaction, but I would never
| send sensitive financial data offsite via an ip connection.
|
| What am I missing here?
|
| Gary
|


Nothing Gary -- You are missing nothing.
Data is more valuable then the hardware that it sits on.

 

[R. McCarty]

Backup Solutions uses an encryption system and the data
is stored in one of Iron Mountain's facilities. I'd be more
concerned about a lost notebook than using this service for
Server data backup. This isn't a bare metal recovery type
of backup - just critical business data and Exchange Server.

Besides the fact that Quickbooks data is itself password
protected. The customer wanted something he could just
setup once and be done with it. Streaming tape on a SCSI
controller really didn't meet his needs.

It's handy because I can periodically Remote Desktop to the
server and check the backup logs.

 

[R. McCarty]

Maybe - but Optical disks must be manually created and are
subject to physical damage. I've also burned many disks that
when called on for recovery have issues like a CRC error. I
suppose needs vary, but for a business where a single billing
can exceed $20,000 - $40 a month is pretty cheap.

 

[Gary Walker]

Thanks for all the replies, Larry, David, and R.McCarty.

I was pretty sure that encryption was in the picture, but
still skeptical. I guess it's just a strong concern of having
my data of someone else's system. Sensitive data, that is.

Thanks again, for the clues.

Gary

 

[David H. Lipman]

From: "R. McCarty" <[email protected]>

| Maybe - but Optical disks must be manually created and are
| subject to physical damage. I've also burned many disks that
| when called on for recovery have issues like a CRC error. I
| suppose needs vary, but for a business where a single billing
| can exceed $20,000 - $40 a month is pretty cheap.
|

Then they can afford a DAT, AIT, Travan or other, USB v2.0, SCSI or FireWire tape drive

Personally, I backup 4.5GB onto DVDRW media in ~15 minutes. No issues yet and I have had to
restore data one in a while. I use multiple DVRW discs and rotate them. I don't even have
a business. I just care about "MY" data.

 

[Larry Samuels]

Hi David,

That works great because YOU are in control of the backup process. I use a
similar backup strategy for my own data.

Unfortunately when dealing with clients, most are clueless and you need a
fail-safe method of recovery that is *not* dependent on the secretary
remembering to rotate disks or remembering to call you if the backup reports
errors or failure. Encrypted data stored offsite is the least prone to
failure and the most cost effective.
I can monitor the logs remotely so I know if there has been a failure.

PS: Tape has a higher failure rate than DVD-rw in my experience. Ask most IT
guys about tape failure and they will reply it isn't a question of if the
tape will fail, it's a question of when.


--
Larry Samuels Associate Expert
MS-MVP (2001-2005)
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
Expert Zone-

 

[David H. Lipman]

From: "Larry Samuels" <[email protected]>

| Hi David,
|
| That works great because YOU are in control of the backup process. I use a
| similar backup strategy for my own data.
|
| Unfortunately when dealing with clients, most are clueless and you need a
| fail-safe method of recovery that is *not* dependent on the secretary
| remembering to rotate disks or remembering to call you if the backup reports
| errors or failure. Encrypted data stored offsite is the least prone to
| failure and the most cost effective.
| I can monitor the logs remotely so I know if there has been a failure.
|
| PS: Tape has a higher failure rate than DVD-rw in my experience. Ask most IT
| guys about tape failure and they will reply it isn't a question of if the
| tape will fail, it's a question of when.
|

I ended up having to stop using my DAT DDS3 SCSI drive when it started breaking tapes.
Before that I used SCSI Travan.

Clients *must* be educated in the area. I find it is easier to educate them on good backup
procedures then Safe Hex practices. LOL

The only time I can see using third party services is when the data is is just too large to
manage. Then you have to use a contracted service.

BTW: I still remember the days of using 40MB QIC tape drives using the floppy controller !
Now that there is USB v2.0 and FireWire, one is not relagated to SCSI.

PS: I wonder if there are PATA and/or SATA tape drives ?

 

[Pop`]

Removable hard drives two of them, best if encrypted, are a much better
solution IMO. Then you pretty much know who has your data and what they
can/can't do to/with it and it's usually more convenient to plug in the
drive and go. Probably faster too when you consider the time that amount of
data could take to transit, espeically when uploading.
You keep one backup on an internal drive, the rest of the externals and
rotate.

JMO

Pop

 

[Larry Samuels]

Yep
http://www.nextag.com/sata-tape-drive/search-html


--
Larry Samuels Associate Expert
MS-MVP (2001-2005)
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
Expert Zone-

 

[David H. Lipman]

From: "Larry Samuels" <[email protected]>

| Yep
| http://www.nextag.com/sata-tape-drive/search-html
|

Well there 'ya go. Danca !

 

[claus]

Removable hard drives two of them, best if encrypted, are a much better
solution IMO. Then you pretty much know who has your data and what they
can/can't do to/with it and it's usually more convenient to plug in the
drive and go. Probably faster too when you consider the time that amount of
data could take to transit, espeically when uploading.
You keep one backup on an internal drive, the rest of the externals and
rotate.

JMO

Pop

Ok Pop, and how about the "where are you going to store this removable
hd" question? And the fact that not only damaged drives are the cause
of data lost.

If you work with irreplaceable data, like a whole transaction of
emails, burning a DVD or coping to a HD is only valuable if you can
store this data OUTSIDE of your company. Are you going to walk around
with the removable HD home-office-home everytime you need to copy
something?

I use a remote backup service. And, unless you have a big company that
can afford a theft-and-burn-proof storehouse, or lead with FBI top
secret information, these services are the best option around.

That is my opinion.
Regards,
Tiago

 

[Sukhoi47]

In these times of rampant identity theft, what kind of an idiot would
trust the personal data to an on-line "storage" service? That'd just be
begging for trouble.

Bruce,

Mozy have a user controlled encryption system, with 448 bits key.
I tested, works fine.

But if the user don't trust in the embebed mozy encryption, he is able
to encrypt the data with a third part encryption software (Winrar is
good for this) before do the backup. So the user have 2 encryption
layers.

I have my local backup, but I believe have a second non-local backup is
a very good idea.
So I have a protection in case of fire, stolen, etc.

Maybe is not a good tool for you, but will be useful for many.
My suggestion is only this, a suggestion.

Thanks.

SB